<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146</id><updated>2012-02-10T20:31:21.460-05:00</updated><category term='Pennsylvania Elk Hunting and Tourism'/><category term='Elk Management and Tourism'/><category term='elk'/><category term='birthday'/><category term='Pennsylvania Elk Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><category term='Bull#40'/><category term='Fred Jr.'/><category term='Pennsyvania Elk Rut'/><category term='Pennsylvania Elk Rut'/><category term='Pennsylvania Elk In Summer'/><category term='deformed antlers'/><category term='Pa Elk'/><category term='Pennsylvania Elk In Summer-Shedding Of Velvet'/><category term='Bull 36-Fred'/><category term='Pennsylvania Elk Country Visitor Center'/><category term='Pennsylvania Elk Management: Tourism And Hunting'/><category term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:'/><category term='Pennsylvania Elk In Winter'/><category term='Marcellus Shale'/><category term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management: Tourism and Hunting'/><category term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><category term='Sinnemahoning Visitor Facility'/><category term='Pennsylvania Elk Management'/><category term='Pennsylvania Elk Management:'/><category term='Pennsylvania Elk Visitor Center'/><category term='Bulls In Velvet'/><category term='Pennsylvania Elk Managment'/><category term='Elk Photography'/><category term='Winter Feeding'/><category term='Facebook'/><category term='Elk Calves'/><title type='text'>Welcome to Support PA Elk!</title><subtitle type='html'>May we make a difference!</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Coy Hill</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17961295214970687017</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='27' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-prB57arPKHw/TveN3CgAg8I/AAAAAAAAFQg/SSy1EuWsdCc/s220/profile%2Bpic%2B12-15-11%2BIMG_3392.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>77</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-6907602078787607182</id><published>2012-02-10T20:27:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-02-10T20:27:13.176-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management: Tourism and Hunting'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Winter Feeding'/><title type='text'>News From The PA Wilds</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Dr. Walter Cottrell To Discuss Hazards Of Illegal Elk Feeding&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to PGC &lt;a href="http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=512&amp;amp;objID=12775&amp;amp;PageID=648010&amp;amp;mode=2&amp;amp;contentid=http://pubcontent.state.pa.us/publishedcontent/publish/marketingsites/game_commission/content/resources/newsreleases/newsrelease/articles/release__001_12.html"&gt;News Release #001-12&lt;/a&gt;:  Dr. Walter Cottrell, Pennsylvania Game Commission wildlife  veterinarian, will discuss the harmful effects of winter feeding of elk  at 1 p.m. on Saturday, Feb. 11, at the Department of Conservation and  Natural Resources Elk Country Visitor’s Center at 134 Homestead Dr., in  Benezette Township, Elk County.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Tn0tdjQY5Kg/TzW2cV7HCHI/AAAAAAAAC9k/hb0ZCk2Pdbw/s1600/_MG_3756+bulls+at+feeder.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Tn0tdjQY5Kg/TzW2cV7HCHI/AAAAAAAAC9k/hb0ZCk2Pdbw/s640/_MG_3756+bulls+at+feeder.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Elk At Feeder&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;This is actually part of a prolonged and intense  campaign against the artificial feeding of most wildlife, especially  deer and elk.&amp;nbsp; As usual there are several sides to this story and the  subject was explored in some depth on this blog in the post: "&lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/2010/07/wild-about-elk-elk-and-people-issues_29.html"&gt;Elk and People Issues With Elk,&lt;/a&gt; on July 29, 2010. I plan to explore more aspects of this important issue in the near future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Paul Staniszewski Featured Artist&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;According to a&lt;a href="http://www.eccota.com/exhibits.html"&gt; Press Release by the Elk County Council on the Arts &lt;/a&gt;sent  to us by Paul Staniszewski, "a solo art exhibition is being planned at  the gallery on Saturday, February 18th from 10:00AM until 5:00PM to  coincide with the 13th Annual Ridgway Chainsaw Carvers Rendezvous. The  featured artist for the month of February is Paul Staniszewski and he  will be available to meet and greet visitors to the gallery on that day.   Paul currently resides in Troutville, PA and spends a lot of time  roaming the hills around Benezette looking for elk to photograph. His  work will be on display and he will discuss the equipment, techniques  employed, and share tips on how to successfully approach and photograph  the elk."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-O5n2cZDJh6g/TzXBcF-VOdI/AAAAAAAAC90/b4SerI7Nt6c/s1600/_MG_3436+ron+saffer-paul+stan+saddle+crp.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-O5n2cZDJh6g/TzXBcF-VOdI/AAAAAAAAC90/b4SerI7Nt6c/s640/_MG_3436+ron+saffer-paul+stan+saddle+crp.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ron "Buckwheat"&amp;nbsp; Saffer and Paul Staniszewski Photographing Elk&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ECCOTA Gallery is located at 237 Main St. Ridgway, PA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-6907602078787607182?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/6907602078787607182/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2012/02/news-from-pa-wilds.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6907602078787607182'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6907602078787607182'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2012/02/news-from-pa-wilds.html' title='News From The PA Wilds'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Tn0tdjQY5Kg/TzW2cV7HCHI/AAAAAAAAC9k/hb0ZCk2Pdbw/s72-c/_MG_3756+bulls+at+feeder.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-4160951103883349149</id><published>2012-01-23T13:36:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-23T13:36:37.050-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>PA Governor's Conservation Elk Tag: A Brief History</title><content type='html'>Pennsylvania  has one special elk license, which is issued each year in addition to  the normal allocation of tags.  Some refer to this as a "Governor's  Conservation Tag", while others refer to it as a "Special Conservation  Tag" or some combination of these phrasings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NvhlEbNgzhQ/Tx2mzQPldeI/AAAAAAAAC80/MO8qa6QqX_g/s1600/_MG_2556+bull+22+2011.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NvhlEbNgzhQ/Tx2mzQPldeI/AAAAAAAAC80/MO8qa6QqX_g/s640/_MG_2556+bull+22+2011.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Special Conservation Tags Are For Bulls Only&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;A  brief synopsis of how this special license came to be may be found in  Pennsylvania Game Commission News Release #017-09, which states as  follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"In 2001, a recommendation to provide one  special elk license for wildlife conservation organizations to auction  was originally included in the Game Commission Elk Hunt Advisory  Committee Report as one of the concepts for promoting elk hunting.  However, the recommendation was set aside at that time because it was  determined that legislative authority was necessary to do so. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rep.  Marc J. Gergely (D-Allegheny) introduced House Bill 747 to grant the  Game Commission authority to provide one antlered elk license to a  wildlife conservation organization to auction. Of the auction proceeds,  up to 20 percent may be retained by the wildlife conservation  organization and the rest turned over to the Game Commission for elk  management. Signed into law on Oct. 9, Act 101 of 2008 (previously House  Bill 747) was unanimously approved by the House and Senate." &lt;br /&gt;(Source PGC News Release #017-09)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Act 101 of 2008 states, "the auction will be open to residents and non-residents of the Commonwealth".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  first conservation tag was awarded to the National Wild Turkey  Federation and sold for $28,000 at its' national convention in  Nashville, Tennessee, in February of 2009. The successful bidder was Jim  Nyce, of Green Lane, Montgomery County, who  took a 6x6 bull on Oct.  14, in Benezette Township, Elk County. The decision to award the tag to  the NWTF caused a great deal of controversy at the time as many thought  that The Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation would be a more appropriate  organization to auction an elk tag and many were disappointed as they  expected the tag to sell for much more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The tag was  awarded to the RMEF in 2010, which auctioned the tag off for $35,000 to  another Pennsylvania resident Bob Ehle of Orefield. Ehle harvested a 5x6  on Oct. 7, in Shippen Township, in Cameron County.(source PGC News  Release 120-10)  This prompted prominent outdoor writer Bob Frye of the  Pittsburgh Tribune-Review to write an article, &lt;a href="http://pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/outdoors/s_702478.html#ixzz1k9QwLlRE"&gt;"Pennsylvania elk herd among nations finest, but for how long?"&lt;/a&gt;,  which is well worth reading. Mr Frye reports that the Boone and  Crockett Club ranked Pennsylvania in the top 10 trophy bull producing  states of the decade, but goes on to ask,can it sustain that ” and keep  hunters' interest high” when the herd numbers fewer than 700 animals?"   This article in turn was featured in an October 05, 2010 post on Field  and Stream Blogs, "Pennsylvania Hunters Pay Big Money for Chance at  Trophy Elk" By Chad Love, which links to Mr. Frye's article and is  followed by reader comments, which encompass a range of reactions, which  we will explore in the near future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 2011, Michael  McGinnis of Lyndhurst, Virginia became the first non-resident to obtain  the conservation tag. According to PGC Release #126-11 November 08,  2011, "Roe(PGC Executive Director Carl Roe) also noted that Michael  McGinnis, of Lyndhurst, Virginia, who was the successful bidder for the  Elk Conservation Tag, harvested an antlered elk. McGinnis harvested a  7x9 on Oct. 19, in Jay Township, in Elk County. McGinnis purchased the  Conservation Elk Tag during the Safari Club International’s national  conference in early 2011, and was able to hunt from Sept. 1-Nov. 5.  Under the state law that created the Elk Conservation Tag, of the  $29,000 that McGinnis bid for the tag, $23,200 will go to the Game  Commission’s Game Fund and $5,800 will be retained by Safari Club  International.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 2012 the tag will be auctioned by the &lt;a href="http://www.wildsheepfoundation.org/"&gt;Wild Sheep Foundation &lt;/a&gt;at  their upcoming Expo in Hunt Valley, Maryland in February.  ACT 2008-101  has a sunset provision and the Governor's Conservation Tag will expire  on July 1, 2013 unless renewed.  Watch for a future post explaining some  of the pros and cons of this concept.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-4160951103883349149?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/4160951103883349149/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2012/01/pa-governors-conservation-elk-tag-brief.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/4160951103883349149'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/4160951103883349149'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2012/01/pa-governors-conservation-elk-tag-brief.html' title='PA Governor&apos;s Conservation Elk Tag: A Brief History'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NvhlEbNgzhQ/Tx2mzQPldeI/AAAAAAAAC80/MO8qa6QqX_g/s72-c/_MG_2556+bull+22+2011.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-4150964998954310081</id><published>2012-01-14T12:20:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-14T12:20:04.977-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk In Winter'/><title type='text'>Paul Staniszewski  Featured Friday On VisitPA Facebook Page</title><content type='html'>Paul Staniszewski, who is a frequent contributor to this blog  e-mailed me to let us know that VisitPA has a facebook presence and that  they featured one of his elk photographs on&amp;nbsp; "Fab Friday Fan Foto"&amp;nbsp; The  photo is also posted below with Paul's permission.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OQR2NkpvDKE/TxG2895cJ9I/AAAAAAAAC8Y/RExMEmTaoMA/s1600/snowelk+brighter.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="414" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OQR2NkpvDKE/TxG2895cJ9I/AAAAAAAAC8Y/RExMEmTaoMA/s640/snowelk+brighter.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bull Elk In Winter: Courtesy of Paul Staniszewski-all rights reserved.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Those who have a facebook account are encouraged to see the post on the &lt;a href="https://www.facebook.com/visitPA"&gt;VisitPA&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; facebook page.&amp;nbsp; Be sure to follow the links for information on &lt;a href="http://www.visitpa.com/elk-country-visitors-center"&gt;The Elk Country Visitor Center.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Winter  is an excellent time to visit Elk Country, especially when there is  snow cover,as it can make for&amp;nbsp; exciting photo opportunities.&amp;nbsp; I  especially like to film elk in the falling snow as it is easy to capture  the falling snow flakes on video, and the snow creates a wild, dramatic  backdrop against which to photograph wildlife.&lt;br /&gt;Snow does not show  up as well in still as in video in many cases, such as in the photo  below of a young bull on the weekend before the 2011 elk season.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VFS4qIkBgKw/TxG4fndfpxI/AAAAAAAAC8g/by4mBSdwgmU/s1600/_MG_6111+young+bull+in+snow+8xv.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VFS4qIkBgKw/TxG4fndfpxI/AAAAAAAAC8g/by4mBSdwgmU/s640/_MG_6111+young+bull+in+snow+8xv.jpg" width="512" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bull Elk During Snowstorm&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;There was a moderate snow coming down, and while the  flakes do show up in the still photograph, they are much more noticeable  in video taken at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at&lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt; Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-4150964998954310081?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/4150964998954310081/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2012/01/paul-staniszewski-featured-friday-on.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/4150964998954310081'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/4150964998954310081'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2012/01/paul-staniszewski-featured-friday-on.html' title='Paul Staniszewski  Featured Friday On VisitPA Facebook Page'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OQR2NkpvDKE/TxG2895cJ9I/AAAAAAAAC8Y/RExMEmTaoMA/s72-c/snowelk+brighter.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-6844858674364012707</id><published>2012-01-05T20:25:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-05T20:25:07.763-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>Looking Back</title><content type='html'>Note: While the following post deals with the Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer Blog, it is posted here as it is pertinent to the Pennsylvania elk herd.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This blog was originally developed as a venue to present my wildlife  photography and videos to the public, with a special emphasis on  Pennsylvania's elk herd.&amp;nbsp; The first post was made on October 1, 2007.&amp;nbsp;  It was titled &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/2007/10/shedding-of-velvet.html"&gt;"The Shedding Of The Velvet"&lt;/a&gt;  and featured four photos of whitetail bucks.&amp;nbsp; Since that time, a  variety of wildlife species have been covered, but I would assume that  elk and deer have been the most discussed species by far.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dgxQfbh1zKI/TwZIZusDW1I/AAAAAAAAC60/tupJD4S52qc/s1600/_MG_5286+uncle+bob.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dgxQfbh1zKI/TwZIZusDW1I/AAAAAAAAC60/tupJD4S52qc/s640/_MG_5286+uncle+bob.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Elk Have Been A Major Focus Of Blog Since The Beginning&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The launching of the blog also coincided  with the beginning of serious post-production work on "The Truth About  Pennsylvania's Elk Herd", which was released in September of 2008. "The  Truth" is a 2 hour 42 minute film that deals briefly with the overall  history of Pennsylvania Elk, goes into an in depth history of the herd  from 1995 until 2008, covers the life cycle of the elk with a special  emphasis on the rut, and concludes with a look at elk management issues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  film differs from most mainstream press coverage of Pennsylvania elk  and from other films on the subject in that it takes at critical look at  Pennsylvania's elk management policy.&amp;nbsp; The concept for the film  actually began years ago when I was an employee of the PGC Food And  Cover Corps, and Deputy Wildlife Conservation Officer.&amp;nbsp; At that time  Billie Cromwell was a Food And Cover Corps foreman and as such was my  supervisor.&amp;nbsp; On his own time, Billie shot video footage of the elk herd,  which he then turned over to PGC videographer, Hal Korber, who  incorporated a great deal of it in The Pennsylvania Game Commission  video, "Pennsylvania Elk: Reclaiming The Alleghenies".&amp;nbsp; Billie had been  going to elk country since the 1980s and had been around the elk a lot.&amp;nbsp;  He was an avid hunter and shooter, but soon recognized that the elk  herd was something special and as such he was the first one who exposed  me to the view that the elk were "best utilized as a viewable resource"&amp;nbsp;  I must add that this was and is a commonly held view among many who are  part of the "elk culture" on Winslow Hill.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Most of these people are,  or were, avid hunters who recognize the need to control the elk  population at some point, but based on the PGC's past track record, and  some of the statements we were hearing and reading, it was easy to be  alarmed at what direction an elk hunt might take.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DhWEfYvwsuc/TwZJpp23wOI/AAAAAAAAC7A/FwnCeFfZ10g/s1600/billie+and+L2+gaussian+blur.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="468" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DhWEfYvwsuc/TwZJpp23wOI/AAAAAAAAC7A/FwnCeFfZ10g/s640/billie+and+L2+gaussian+blur.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Billie Cromwell With Canon L2 Filming Near Saddle, Sept. 1998: &lt;/span&gt;video still capture&amp;nbsp; Canon L2 by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;Fulton County Deputy Wildlife Conservation Officer,  Andy Carbaugh was gracious enough to take me to Elk County on  President's Day in 1995, and I returned for a day trip that August and  then spent 4-5 days during the last week of September that year  recording the rut.&amp;nbsp; This marked the beginning of years of collecting  video footage of the elk herd and my experiences with the elk served to  convince me that Billie was right in his thoughts about the elk herd.  Along with this came the desire to make a film, which would not only  enable me to share many of the unique experiences I captured, but to  present a different point of view to the public than that which was  officially promoted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This became possible when I  retired from the agency in 2007 and was free to express my personal  viewpoints in both writing and film.&amp;nbsp; Billie and well known elk  photographer, Ron "Buckwheat" Saffer, both gave me tremendous aid in  preparing the script for the film, contributing video footage and still  photographs, and providing support and inspiration along the way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At  a meeting shortly before "The Truth About Pennsylvania's Elk Herd" was  released, Billie and others were reminiscing about the making of the PGC  video and Billie remarked that had he known how that "Reclaiming the  Alleghenies" would be used to advance the agenda for an elk hunt, and  even tourism to the extent that it was, that he would not have  participated in the project.&amp;nbsp; He was&amp;nbsp; especially bitter that his name  was mentioned only once in the closing credits of the film and he  believed that some did not even want it listed there.&amp;nbsp; It was not listed  anywhere on the jacket of the video, although the name of every other  person involved to a major extent was listed, along with credit for what  they did, and Billie was involved to a major extent as a significant  portion of the rut footage was filmed by him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A major  concern that began when talk of a hunt first surfaced and continues to  this day is that restraint would go out the window  once the hunt  started, with larger and larger license allocations and an undue focus  on shooting the large acclimated bulls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The point of  all of this is that the blog has always been issue driven to a certain  extent. During the past year I have moved it more in that direction and  hope to continue to pursue this course.&amp;nbsp; I do plan to continue writing  about&amp;nbsp; the natural history of wildlife, and photography/video equipment  and techniques also.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In addition I wish to thank  everyone who purchased the film, or supported the blog.&amp;nbsp; I have met many  of you in elk country as a result and truly appreciate your support.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-6844858674364012707?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/6844858674364012707/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2012/01/looking-back.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6844858674364012707'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6844858674364012707'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2012/01/looking-back.html' title='Looking Back'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dgxQfbh1zKI/TwZIZusDW1I/AAAAAAAAC60/tupJD4S52qc/s72-c/_MG_5286+uncle+bob.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-5132010109024341591</id><published>2011-12-13T19:53:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-13T19:53:56.179-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Management: Tourism And Hunting'/><title type='text'>Another Winslow Hill Favorite Killed In 2011 Hunt</title><content type='html'>Wildlife Artist and photographer David Anderson alerted members of  the elk watching/photography community some time ago about the death of  another favorite bull.&amp;nbsp; This was an impressive 7x8 bull that thrilled  thousands of tourists during the rut on Winslow Hill.&amp;nbsp; Many if not most  of the bulls leave Winslow Hill after the rut and this bull was not  killed on Winslow Hill, but in nearby Jay Township, Elk County.&amp;nbsp;  Anderson had been working on a painting of this particular animal. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-o2vpMeA0cfs/Tufo_sZMW4I/AAAAAAAAC5Y/BdgL6frqGZQ/s1600/_MG_3046+7x8+resting+near+gate.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-o2vpMeA0cfs/Tufo_sZMW4I/AAAAAAAAC5Y/BdgL6frqGZQ/s640/_MG_3046+7x8+resting+near+gate.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;7x8 Rests With Harem Near Large Number Of Tourists Along Dewey Road &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;I concentrated on filming the rut this year, and my  still photography suffered greatly as I was usually running a video  camera during my best elk encounters.&amp;nbsp; As a result, most of the  photographs I am posting today are still captures from the Canon XL-H1  video camera.&amp;nbsp; The following is one of the most dramatic frame captures I  was able to find from the HD video.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4cs3zytqnz4/TufqdNq4uUI/AAAAAAAAC5g/C8-_mzHwEqI/s1600/001+7x8+cu+8xv.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4cs3zytqnz4/TufqdNq4uUI/AAAAAAAAC5g/C8-_mzHwEqI/s640/001+7x8+cu+8xv.jpg" width="510" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;7x8 Pauses To Pant On Winslow Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Saturday evening, September 24th found The Saddle  filled with elk and elk watchers.&amp;nbsp; I was on a favorite pond bank with  the XL-H1, recording the activity.&amp;nbsp; Two large&amp;nbsp; bulls came from the woods  and passed by where I was standing.&amp;nbsp; Both were exceptional, but one had  a broken beam.&amp;nbsp; The other was the 7x8.&amp;nbsp; The following photo was taken  at that time and shows how the bull looked from a side view.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fNF_kGhXHAU/Tufsp2AWkNI/AAAAAAAAC5o/NpcMSf7Fe8w/s1600/002+7x8+side+view+mas+ter.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fNF_kGhXHAU/Tufsp2AWkNI/AAAAAAAAC5o/NpcMSf7Fe8w/s640/002+7x8+side+view+mas+ter.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;7x8 Passes By Pond Bank&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;The bulls continued past the pond and into a clover  strip along the road through the saddle, where they joined a large herd  of cows and smaller bulls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Bt4OWUEngSU/TuftUTyJq4I/AAAAAAAAC5w/RfJn9NRr8eo/s1600/003+7x8+horses+and+tourists.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Bt4OWUEngSU/TuftUTyJq4I/AAAAAAAAC5w/RfJn9NRr8eo/s640/003+7x8+horses+and+tourists.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;7x8 With Harem Near Elk Watchers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;This elk was not among the wildest that I have seen,  but neither was he the most acclimated to humans.&amp;nbsp; Depending on the  circumstances he seemed to have a 40-75 yard tolerance range.&amp;nbsp; I never  actually saw him bolt from humans, but did see him move slowly away when  persons got inside his comfort zone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With the loss of  this bull and another one known as "Ear Hook", the two largest bulls  commonly seen on Winslow Hill this fall are gone.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anderson notes that he intends to complete the painting after the Holidays.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally Posted At &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-5132010109024341591?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/5132010109024341591/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/12/another-winslow-hill-favorite-killed-in.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/5132010109024341591'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/5132010109024341591'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/12/another-winslow-hill-favorite-killed-in.html' title='Another Winslow Hill Favorite Killed In 2011 Hunt'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-o2vpMeA0cfs/Tufo_sZMW4I/AAAAAAAAC5Y/BdgL6frqGZQ/s72-c/_MG_3046+7x8+resting+near+gate.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-6563193996377416640</id><published>2011-11-11T20:53:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-11T20:53:39.038-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>Pennsylvania Elk Season 2011-Part 3 Results, End Of 1st Week</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tZrAzhP1qSM/Tr3OhcRBibI/AAAAAAAAC3I/jU3ER7SXg5w/s1600/IMG_6218+elk+h+zone+2+first+day.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tZrAzhP1qSM/Tr3OhcRBibI/AAAAAAAAC3I/jU3ER7SXg5w/s640/IMG_6218+elk+h+zone+2+first+day.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Elk Near Gilbert Viewing Area, Winslow Hill Hunt Zone 2&amp;nbsp; First Morning Of Season&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;By the end of the first week of Pennsylvania elk  season on November 5th, 2011, 19 bull elk had been killed along with 34  antlerless--this from an allocation of 18 antlered tags and&amp;nbsp; 38  antlerless, leaving only 4 antlerless tags to be filled during the  extended elk season, which began on Monday and ends at close of shooting  hours on Saturday November 12th.&amp;nbsp; This season is open only to persons  with unfilled tags and in the area of the state which is outside of the  official Elk Management Area.&amp;nbsp; It is designed to direct pressure at the  elk that have spread into areas where the PGC does not want the animals.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You might ask, how can there be 19 bulls legally  killed when there is only an 18 bull tag allocation.&amp;nbsp; The extra bull is  the Governors Conservation Tag, which is auctioned off each year to the  highest bidder.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; We plan to discuss this in more detail in the near  future (there are some details in PGC news release below).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  results of the hunt tends to reinforce the position that most  Pennsylvania elk are&amp;nbsp; not "as wild as any", as many try to claim.  Historically, the success rate on bulls has been very high--usually in  the 90%--100% range and this year was no exception.&amp;nbsp; This is not to deny  that there may be a lot of hard work involved in the logistics of a  hunt, both during&amp;nbsp; preparation, and dealing with the harvested animal,&amp;nbsp;  but in many cases there is no difficult "hunting story"&amp;nbsp; to tell,  although there may be some hunts that are challenging,  especially in  the more remote areas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9wNYiJyBcfU/Tr3PeI1pieI/AAAAAAAAC3Q/qi1_p3lTM80/s1600/IMG_6445+young+bull+at+gilbert.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9wNYiJyBcfU/Tr3PeI1pieI/AAAAAAAAC3Q/qi1_p3lTM80/s640/IMG_6445+young+bull+at+gilbert.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bull Elk No Hunt Zone Gilbert Viewing Area -A Survivor Of Monday's Harvest In The Saddle&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Below is the official PGC news release, which may be found by visiting the PGC website. To view the official document:&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=512&amp;amp;objID=12775&amp;amp;PageID=648010&amp;amp;mode=2&amp;amp;contentid=http://pubcontent.state.pa.us/publishedcontent/publish/marketingsites/game_commission/content/resources/newsreleases/newsrelease/articles/release__126_11.html"&gt;Click Here.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;November 08, 2011&lt;br /&gt;Release #126-11 (Source The Pennsylvania Game Commission)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;HUNTERS HARVEST 53 ELK IN 2011&lt;br /&gt;HARRISBURG  – Pennsylvania Game Commission Executive Director Carl G. Roe today  announced that 53 of the 57 licensed elk hunters were successful during  the 2011 elk seasons. Of that total, 19 were antlered elk and 34 were  antlerless elk. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Elk are one of North America’s  premier big game animals," Roe said. "Pennsylvania is privileged to  offer this unique hunting opportunity, a product of successful wildlife  management that supports Pennsylvania’s rich hunting heritage. It’s an  unparalleled experience for hunters, without all the travel and expense  of a one- or two-week guided elk hunt out West." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  heaviest antlered elk was taken by William G. Zee, of Doylestown, Bucks  County. He took a 930-pound (estimated live weight), 9x8 on Nov. 1, in  Goshen Township, Clearfield County. It’s unofficial Boone &amp;amp; Crockett  green score was 426 and five-eighths inches. If this score holds up  after the required 60-day drying time, it would be ranked second on  Pennsylvania’s Big Game Records for non-typical elk. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other  high-scoring antlered elk (all estimated live weights) were: Jesse M.  Heiple, of Somerset, Somerset County, took a 772-pound, 8x7 on Nov. 1,  in Jay Township, Elk County, which green-scored at 399 and three-eighths  inches; Ken Kastely, of Carroll, Ohio, took a 780-pound, 9x9 on Nov. 1,  in Covington Township, Clearfield County, which green-scored at 386 and  five-eighths inches; and Calvin E. Wallace, of Kylertown, Clearfield  County, took a 711-pound, 6x7 on Oct. 31, in Jay Township, Elk County. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  heaviest antlerless elk was taken by Garry L. Foreman, of Hershey,  Dauphin County, who harvested a 601-pound (estimated live weight)  antlerless elk on Nov. 5, in Jay Township, Elk County. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those  hunters rounding out the top five heaviest (all estimated live weights)  antlerless elk harvested were: Daniel W. Saulter, of Coudersport,  Potter County, who took a 594-pound antlerless elk on Nov. 3, in Jay  Township, Elk County; Gregory Collins, of Clearfield, Clearfield County,  who took a 579-pound antlerless elk on Nov. 2, in Goshen Township,  Clearfield County; David Grata, of Johnstown, Cambria County, who took a  546-pound antlerless elk on Nov. 1, in Goshen Township, Clearfield  County; and Joshua Brubaker, of Edinboro, Erie County, who took a  517-pound antlerless elk on Oct. 31, in Benezette Township, Elk County. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Agency biologists extracted samples needed for chronic wasting disease testing. Results are expected in early 2012. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Roe  also noted that Michael McGinnis, of Lyndhurst, Virginia, who was the  successful bidder for the Elk Conservation Tag, harvested an antlered  elk. McGinnis harvested a 7x9 on Oct. 19, in Jay Township, in Elk  County. McGinnis purchased the Conservation Elk Tag during the Safari  Club International’s national conference in early 2011, and was able to  hunt from Sept. 1-Nov. 5. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Under the state law that  created the Elk Conservation Tag, of the $29,000 that McGinnis bid for  the tag, $23,200 will go to the Game Commission’s Game Fund and $5,800  will be retained by Safari Club International.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-6563193996377416640?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/6563193996377416640/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/11/pennsylvania-elk-season-2011-part-3.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6563193996377416640'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6563193996377416640'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/11/pennsylvania-elk-season-2011-part-3.html' title='Pennsylvania Elk Season 2011-Part 3 Results, End Of 1st Week'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tZrAzhP1qSM/Tr3OhcRBibI/AAAAAAAAC3I/jU3ER7SXg5w/s72-c/IMG_6218+elk+h+zone+2+first+day.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-5306519948913896171</id><published>2011-11-04T21:05:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-11-04T21:05:30.089-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management: Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>Pennsylvania Elk Season 2011-Part 2 Results as Of Noon Thursday</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZzxaNBc5Xjk/TrRzNdktoEI/AAAAAAAAC24/UP_eUeUlAvA/s1600/_MG_3482+6x6+kill+saddle.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZzxaNBc5Xjk/TrRzNdktoEI/AAAAAAAAC24/UP_eUeUlAvA/s640/_MG_3482+6x6+kill+saddle.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bull Harvested In Saddle Monday Morning&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;As promised we will soon get to the elk season  statistics as of noon on Thursday, but first a bit of information about  the bull harvested in the saddle on Monday.&amp;nbsp; He was captured as a calf  in Bear Hollow, fitted with&amp;nbsp; numbered ear tags, and released.&amp;nbsp; He was  41/2 years this fall.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The check station was very quiet  when I stopped by slightly before noon on Thursday while headed back  home.&amp;nbsp; This was in marked contrast to the day before when several bulls  were brought in to the checked.between 10:00 a.m.&amp;nbsp; and noon.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-N0QxyCQgQyA/TrR4Rg5xsDI/AAAAAAAAC3A/JkqKFh4WSG0/s1600/_MG_3571+check+station.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-N0QxyCQgQyA/TrR4Rg5xsDI/AAAAAAAAC3A/JkqKFh4WSG0/s640/_MG_3571+check+station.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Elk Check Station&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;At noon Thursday there were 3 bull tags and 16 cow  tags that had not yet been filled out of a total allocation of 56.&amp;nbsp; The  following is a breakdown of some of the more pertinent statistics:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table border="0" cellspacing="0" cols="5" frame="VOID" rules="NONE"&gt;&lt;colgroup&gt;&lt;col width="95"&gt;&lt;/col&gt;&lt;col width="86"&gt;&lt;/col&gt;&lt;col width="86"&gt;&lt;/col&gt;&lt;col width="86"&gt;&lt;/col&gt;&lt;col width="86"&gt;&lt;/col&gt;&lt;/colgroup&gt;  &lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;    &lt;td align="LEFT" height="17" width="95"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER" colspan="2" width="171"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Allocation&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER" colspan="2" width="171"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Harvested&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;    &lt;td align="LEFT" height="17"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Hunt Zone&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bulls&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Cows&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bulls&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Cows&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;    &lt;td align="LEFT" height="17"&gt;&lt;b&gt;1&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Open&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Open&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;    &lt;td align="LEFT" height="17"&gt;&lt;b&gt;2&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;4&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;12&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;2&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;10&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;    &lt;td align="LEFT" height="17"&gt;&lt;b&gt;3&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;1&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;2&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;1&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;1&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;    &lt;td align="LEFT" height="17"&gt;&lt;b&gt;4&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;1&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;1&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;1&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;1&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;    &lt;td align="LEFT" height="17"&gt;&lt;b&gt;5&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Closed&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Closed&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;    &lt;td align="LEFT" height="17"&gt;&lt;b&gt;6&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Closed&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Closed&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;    &lt;td align="LEFT" height="17"&gt;&lt;b&gt;7&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;4&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;6&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;1&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;2&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;    &lt;td align="LEFT" height="17"&gt;&lt;b&gt;8&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;4&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;6&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;0&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;4&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;    &lt;td align="LEFT" height="17"&gt;&lt;b&gt;9&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;2&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;9&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;2&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;4&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;    &lt;td align="LEFT" height="17"&gt;&lt;b&gt;10&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;2&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;2&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;2&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;0&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;    &lt;td align="LEFT" height="17"&gt;&lt;b&gt;11-Open Zone&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;6&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;    &lt;td align="LEFT" height="17"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Total&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;18&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;38&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;15&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;    &lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;b&gt;22&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align="CENTER"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt; &lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Explanation: Hunt Zone 1 has no specified  allocation, but is part of the open zone.&amp;nbsp; The open Zone is also called  Zone 11 and is a portion of the Elk Management Area as defined on page  88 of the 2011-12 Hunting and Trapping Digest issued with hunting  licenses by the PGC.&amp;nbsp; The closed area is the portion of the Elk  Management Area also described on the same page where elk hunting is not  permitted this year.&amp;nbsp; I do not think the bull killed by the holder of  The Governor's Conservation Tag is included on this chart.&amp;nbsp; If not 3  bulls were shot in Zone 2, but this bull was recovered in Zone 10.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is my understanding that hunters are required to  hunt in the Hunt Zone for which they are drawn, with the exception that  they may choose to hunt in the open zone instead if they so desire.&amp;nbsp; It  is interesting to note that 6 bulls were harvested in the open zone,  which has to mean that the hunters were originally given another hunt  zone but chose not to hunt there.&amp;nbsp; Surprisingly Zone 2 had yielded only  1/2 of its' bull allocation, while Zone 8 had none killed. and Zone 7  had 1 of its' 4 tags unfilled.&amp;nbsp; It would be interesting to know what  zones the hunters who harvested bulls in the Open Zone were originally  chosen for, but I did not think to check and see if this information was  available at the time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Based on statistics from past  years, I would venture to predict that it is likely that most if not all  of&amp;nbsp; the bull tags will be filled, but it is very likely that some of  the cow tags will not.&amp;nbsp; According to Page 86 of the Digest there is an  extended season from November 7-12, where those with unfilled tags may  hunt for a bull or cow depending on the type of license issued to them,  but only in areas outside of the Elk Management Area, which are areas  where the PGC does not want an elk herd to become established.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now  for a few more statistics. The bulls fitted with numbered collars are  listed by bull number and number of points, others by points only. NT  means non-typical, while T means typical.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Largest Bulls&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;Bull 89 (8x9) -, Zone 9 Clearfield County: NT- Gross 440,  Final 426 5/8&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;8x7- Zone 9 Clearfield County: NT Gross 405 6/8, Final 399 3/8&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;Bull 3B (8x7)  Zone 7: T Gross 409, Final 333 5/8.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;9x9-Zone 11 (Open Zone) Gross 409 1/8, Final 386 5/8.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;The  above information about the largest bulls is taken from my hastily  scribbled notes and I hope that it is accurate.&amp;nbsp; I am not sure if the  9x9 listed last is typical or non-typical.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-5306519948913896171?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/5306519948913896171/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/11/pennsylvania-elk-season-2011-part-2.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/5306519948913896171'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/5306519948913896171'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/11/pennsylvania-elk-season-2011-part-2.html' title='Pennsylvania Elk Season 2011-Part 2 Results as Of Noon Thursday'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZzxaNBc5Xjk/TrRzNdktoEI/AAAAAAAAC24/UP_eUeUlAvA/s72-c/_MG_3482+6x6+kill+saddle.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-2905524241372428472</id><published>2011-11-04T12:56:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-11-04T12:56:22.168-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management: Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>Pennsylvania Elk Season 2011-Part 1</title><content type='html'>I was in Pennsylvania Elk Country from last Friday afternoon until  noon on Thursday, observing and recording events leading up to elk  season, and of course the first 3 1/2 days of season.&amp;nbsp; I spent much of  my time at the major viewing area on Dewey Road, which is also the only  viewing area on Winslow Hill where elk are frequently harvested within  plain view of the general public. This was a hot-bed of elk activity,  with a large herd usually visible on the far hillside, which many know  as "The Saddle".&amp;nbsp; I never paused to count the elk, but heard others talk  about seeing 100 animals&amp;nbsp; in the area, which seems to be a good ball  park figure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I saw several bulls on the hill throughout  the period, most of which were distinctively 2nd or 3rd tier bulls.&amp;nbsp; I  did film a very respectable bull on Friday evening, but did not see him  again.&amp;nbsp; There were two or more 6x6 bulls that looked much alike, making  it hard to differentiate between them.&amp;nbsp; Saturday brought snow&amp;nbsp; and&amp;nbsp;  excellent encounters with these animals.&amp;nbsp; One of the bulls was to figure  largely in the events of Monday morning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1ddKv3YNWVg/TrP9epN0N9I/AAAAAAAAC2o/oCg5Gtl7FoU/s1600/_MG_3377+bear+hollow+bull-saddle.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1ddKv3YNWVg/TrP9epN0N9I/AAAAAAAAC2o/oCg5Gtl7FoU/s640/_MG_3377+bear+hollow+bull-saddle.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;6x6 In Snow-Likely The Bull Harvested On The First Day&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many of the elk in the saddle, including  several bulls, moved into the no hunt zone after feeding on Sunday  morning, but in late evening they started working back toward the saddle  and for a time elk viewing and photography was excellent along Dewey  Road, but it seemed likely that by dawn most of this herd would rejoin  the animals that had remained in The Saddle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PaYC_XI9Eww/TrP96vhVpfI/AAAAAAAAC2w/k2UAFMfHOoY/s1600/_MG_3460+6x6+at+gilbert.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PaYC_XI9Eww/TrP96vhVpfI/AAAAAAAAC2w/k2UAFMfHOoY/s640/_MG_3460+6x6+at+gilbert.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;6x6 At Gilbert Viewing Area On Sunday Evening&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;My brother, &lt;a href="http://countrycaptures.blogspot.com/"&gt;Coy Hill of Country Captures&lt;/a&gt;  arrived early Monday morning and 6:00 a.m. found us at the parking area  at the end of Dewey Road.&amp;nbsp; A few vehicles were already parked in the  lot and soon more arrived, with some towing horse trailers. For a time  the parking lot was a bustling bee hive of activity. Elk County WCO Doty  McDowell arrived before dawn and paused to discuss the situation. With  12 cow tags and 4 bull tags being issued for Zone 2, there was the  potential for severe problems at this spot, but I was hopeful that a  worse case scenario would not occur, as I had only seen guides from two  different outfitters during the weekend, but this did not rule out that  several tag holders operating on their own could appear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am sure that most readers have already read Coy's accounting of the first day's happenings, but if not go to &lt;a href="http://countrycaptures.blogspot.com/"&gt;Country Captures &lt;/a&gt;to read the details.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At this point I will continue with the assumption that you have read his posting and will comment a bit on the situation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  fears of a massacre proved to be unfounded for a number of reasons, one  being that as best as I can tell only two outfitters were in the saddle  and there were no independent tag holders.&amp;nbsp; The outfitter that  harvested the bull also had a client with a cow license.&amp;nbsp; Both animals  were killed in the same time frame, with the first shot fired at the  bull&amp;nbsp; being the signal for the client with the cow tag&amp;nbsp; to fire.&amp;nbsp; Each  clients was escorted by an individual guide, who appeared to maintain  tight control over the situation and ensured that all went smoothly. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  person that harvested the cow later in the morning was guided by a  different outfitter who also appeared to operate in a very circumspect  and discrete manner, and it must be emphasized that&amp;nbsp; the two groups of outfitters respected each others' operations and did not interact in a competitive manner&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At no time during the weekend did I  approach anyone with an elk tag or a guide and bring up the subject of  hunting the elk on Winslow Hill, or even discuss elk hunting in general,  but two guides did initiate discussion on the subject with me.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Each  had a somewhat different outlook on the situation. (I must emphasize  that everyone I encountered that guided or was  associated with the  guides/outfitters was courteous and respectful).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One  guide was especially concerned about the prospects for a "massacre" on  Winslow Hill and felt that the tame elk on Winslow Hill should not be  hunted--at least on the hillside that is in plain view of the Gilbert  viewing area and Winslow Hill Road.&amp;nbsp; It is my understanding that this  guide did have Zone 2 tag holders, but placed them in other areas of  Zone 2 and not near the viewing areas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A guide who did  participate in Monday,s happenings in The Saddle had a somewhat  different take on the situation.&amp;nbsp; He stated up-front that he mostly  agreed with what I have written and said about the situation in that  area, but that if he didn't guide there someone else would, and since  they had clients with Zone 2 tags and the saddle was in the hunt zone,  then he would guide them there.&amp;nbsp; He also made the point that even though  we could disagree on details that we could still get along.&amp;nbsp; I  wholeheartedly agree with this, and his party and I&amp;nbsp; encountered each  other several times throughout elk season, and maintained a cordial  relationship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I must emphasize again that the problem  is not in most cases with the hunters and guides, or the PGC employees,  but with the policy that permits this to occur.&amp;nbsp; There is no use to  rehash the entire issue at this point.&amp;nbsp; If you are a newcomer to the  blog, read through the archives or view&amp;nbsp; "The Truth About Pennsylvania's  Elk Herd" and read and watch with an open mind.&amp;nbsp; Do not jump to the  knee-jerk reaction of a few that this is anti-hunting propaganda.&amp;nbsp; It  has been plainly stated quite often that we are discussing ideas that  can result in a win-win situation for both the consumptive and  non-consumptive user.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Elk Season Results for Monday through mid-day Thursday to be posted soon. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-2905524241372428472?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/2905524241372428472/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/11/pennsylvania-elk-season-2011-part-1.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/2905524241372428472'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/2905524241372428472'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/11/pennsylvania-elk-season-2011-part-1.html' title='Pennsylvania Elk Season 2011-Part 1'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1ddKv3YNWVg/TrP9epN0N9I/AAAAAAAAC2o/oCg5Gtl7FoU/s72-c/_MG_3377+bear+hollow+bull-saddle.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-6817491523888350215</id><published>2011-10-28T06:21:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-10-28T06:21:09.122-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Management: Tourism And Hunting'/><title type='text'>2011 Pennsylvania Elk Season Nears</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oDlv5kN3QVw/TqpsStgA13I/AAAAAAAAC1M/98M9Xilox-U/s1600/_MG_3037++bull+fog.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oDlv5kN3QVw/TqpsStgA13I/AAAAAAAAC1M/98M9Xilox-U/s640/_MG_3037++bull+fog.jpg" width="512" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Foggy Morning Bull&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;As I write this, in only three more mornings the 2011  Pennsylvania elk season will be upon us.&amp;nbsp; With the Winslow Hill  sub-herd being larger than ever, we are entering season with ten bulls  and twenty cows slated to be taken from Elk Hunt Zones 2,8, 10.&amp;nbsp; I  concentrate on the figures from these zones as it seems likely that a  high percentage of the elk seen on Winslow Hill come from these  areas--especially the bulls (cows are more likely to remain in their  home range, while bulls will range further-especially during the rut..&amp;nbsp;  The allocation was not increased in Zone 10 this year, but it was  doubled for bulls in Zones 2, and 8. The cow allocation for Zone 2 was  doubled for 2011, while it remains the same for Zones 8, and 10.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IDotMHrf3KM/Tqp_yPFrgXI/AAAAAAAAC1c/TFtbOjYCJSA/s1600/_MG_4810+black+6x6+8xv.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IDotMHrf3KM/Tqp_yPFrgXI/AAAAAAAAC1c/TFtbOjYCJSA/s640/_MG_4810+black+6x6+8xv.jpg" width="512" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bull Pauses From Chasing Cows&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;Most will agree that there were a lot of elk on  Winslow Hill during the rut, and many of them were impressive bulls,  although upon close inspection it turns out that most of these ranged  from 6x6s to 7x8s.&amp;nbsp; I personally did not see one of the massive, branch  antlered bulls such as the bull from the late 1990s and early 2000s  known as "Old One Eye", or "One Eyed Frank", or "Fred" the famous town  bull at his peak.&amp;nbsp; That being said, a classically beautiful 7x8 that was  seen each day during my two weeks in elk country, is very good indeed.&amp;nbsp;  An experienced guide estimated that he is in the 400 class and  predicted that he will be killed this year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oKgYkjL-1Mo/Tqp-tvCWEcI/AAAAAAAAC1U/RlJzlb-I-lA/s1600/One+Eye+Bugling+1999.png" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="468" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oKgYkjL-1Mo/Tqp-tvCWEcI/AAAAAAAAC1U/RlJzlb-I-lA/s640/One+Eye+Bugling+1999.png" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"One Eye" 1999: &lt;/span&gt;Video still capture- Canon L2 Hi-8 Camcorder&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;Many of the bulls should have left the hill by now  and returned to the areas where they normally live, which for a great  many of them this is the Gray Hill and Spring Run areas.&amp;nbsp; Two of the  largest bulls taken last year were shot in Spring Run--a 7x7 that is  currently the state record typical bull, and the Crazy Legs, Jr. bull,  which is why I focus on these Hunt Zones in expressing concerns about  the allocations.&amp;nbsp; Perhaps the best chance for a bull's survival is if he  spends the season inside someone's safety zone, or on posted property  where the owner will not allow access for elk hunting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At  first glance, the ten bull allocation for these areas may not seem  excessive when one considers the number of bulls seen overall, but the  problem is that attention will be focused on the largest and the removal  of ten large bulls from this area could severely impact the quality of  bull sighted in the years to come.&amp;nbsp; In actual practice it is likely that  not all hunters will hold out for a big bull.&amp;nbsp; To some a 5x5 in their  sights is simply too much to pass up--especially after hunting for a day  or so, but it does seem likely that most of the bull tags will be  filled, as the success rate on Pennsylvania bulls usually runs in the  90%-100% range. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But so much for speculation, the  allocations for this year are written in stone, the hunters have their  permits and are ready to go, and the elk that will be hunted are there.&amp;nbsp;  In a few short days the drama will unfold and whatever will be,will be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-6817491523888350215?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/6817491523888350215/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/10/2011-pennsylvania-elk-season-nears.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6817491523888350215'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6817491523888350215'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/10/2011-pennsylvania-elk-season-nears.html' title='2011 Pennsylvania Elk Season Nears'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oDlv5kN3QVw/TqpsStgA13I/AAAAAAAAC1M/98M9Xilox-U/s72-c/_MG_3037++bull+fog.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-6154235196987601158</id><published>2011-10-23T11:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-10-23T11:25:07.804-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Rut'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Elk Photography'/><title type='text'>Pennsylvania Elk Rut : Paul Staniszewski's Elk Viewing Guide</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vv2Gqk_-AR8/TqQq7bixapI/AAAAAAAAC0c/wQvj8LBKzd4/s1600/_MG_2584+bull+22++8xh.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vv2Gqk_-AR8/TqQq7bixapI/AAAAAAAAC0c/wQvj8LBKzd4/s640/_MG_2584+bull+22++8xh.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mature Bull Guards Harem From Challengers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;I photographed this fine bull on the first evening of  my&amp;nbsp; trip to Pennsylvania elk country to photograph and film the 2011  rut.&amp;nbsp; I carried three telephoto lenses that evening--the 28-135mm,  70-200mm f2.8,&amp;nbsp; and the 300mm f2.8.&amp;nbsp; The 70-200mm would have worked fine  to photograph the entire bull, but the area where he was standing did  not make&amp;nbsp; the best setting for an elk portrait.&amp;nbsp; I used the 300mm f2.8  to isolate him against the nearby woods, and further improved the  composition by cropping the image in photo shop.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems that interest in serious elk photography is increasing each year and Paul Staniszewski has written a &lt;a href="http://www.dacota.us/guide-to-photographing-elk-in-pennsylvania"&gt;"Guide to Photographing Elk in Pennsylvania"&lt;/a&gt;, which you may access my visiting his &lt;a href="http://www.dacota.us/elk"&gt;website&lt;/a&gt;,  or by clicking the link in the sidebar of this blog..&amp;nbsp; The guide  features an overview of elk photograph, along with tips on photographic  equipment and techniques, the best times to look for elk, and location  of the public elk viewing areas.&amp;nbsp; Be sure to browse &lt;a href="http://www.dacota.us/elk"&gt;Paul's website &lt;/a&gt;and  stop by the Elk Country Visitors Center to check out his selection of  floral note-cards and wildlife photographs, which are for sale in the  gift shop.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-6154235196987601158?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/6154235196987601158/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/10/pennsylvania-elk-rut-paul-staniszewskis.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6154235196987601158'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6154235196987601158'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/10/pennsylvania-elk-rut-paul-staniszewskis.html' title='Pennsylvania Elk Rut : Paul Staniszewski&apos;s Elk Viewing Guide'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vv2Gqk_-AR8/TqQq7bixapI/AAAAAAAAC0c/wQvj8LBKzd4/s72-c/_MG_2584+bull+22++8xh.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-4026214304023302844</id><published>2011-10-08T17:50:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2011-10-08T17:55:44.481-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>"Limpy" The Bull That Roars: A Close Look At  A Mature Pennsylvania Bull</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DtlwPtdp8JQ/TpCmBvmcdaI/AAAAAAAACzQ/550DppRt8sw/s1600/_MG_3005+7x7+in+woods+8xh.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DtlwPtdp8JQ/TpCmBvmcdaI/AAAAAAAACzQ/550DppRt8sw/s640/_MG_3005+7x7+in+woods+8xh.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;7x7 known as "Limpy" Roars&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;It was one of those perfect evenings on Winslow Hill  during the rut of 2009 as several small and medium sized bulls ranged a  meadow in pursuit of cows. As the sun dropped low on the western horizon  the air was tinged with a pleasant coolness, which hinted of cold  frosty nights to come.&amp;nbsp; For a time&amp;nbsp; many other photographers and elk  watchers enjoyed the evening, but they left as the sun dropped below the  horizon and I found myself alone with the elk.&amp;nbsp; I had almost decided to  leave too, but there was a lot of bugling coming from the edge of the  woods nearby and I decided to get into a better position to record audio  of this spine tingling serenade.&amp;nbsp; As I drifted through the meadow I  reflected on what a perfect evening it had been with the exception that I  had seen no mature bulls.&amp;nbsp; I had just placed the Canon XL-H1 video  camera in position to record the audio when suddenly several bulls came  out of the tree line nearby following cows, which passed to my right  side and circled to the hillside behind me with the bulls close behind.&amp;nbsp;  All the while, the air was rent with screaming bugles.&amp;nbsp; Some of the  bulls were raghorns, but others were large, mature bulls and at one  point two bulls locked antlers in a violent but brief scuffle.&amp;nbsp; I had  been not been aware of the&amp;nbsp; mature bulls as individual animals before  this, but all were to loom large in my elk experiences during the next  few years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9LRHCvfweNo/TpCvI3FB1XI/AAAAAAAACzU/76Bs7ogXsb4/s640/_MG_6631+skyllined+bull+bugles.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mature Bull Bugles While Others Lock Antlers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;One  of these animals was the bull featured in the first photo above&amp;nbsp; I was  to encounter him again at The Gilbert on December 23, 2009, which was a  bright, but bitter cold winter day. He and several smaller bulls spent  the entire day there with a large herd of cows, basking in the bright  sunlight in areas that were protected from the winds.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-F2QM3e-xVz4/TpC5D6uNjtI/AAAAAAAACzc/A9716gRa7mk/s1600/_MG_2163+7x7-spike+gilbert.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-F2QM3e-xVz4/TpC5D6uNjtI/AAAAAAAACzc/A9716gRa7mk/s640/_MG_2163+7x7-spike+gilbert.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;7x7 At Gilbert: December 23, 2009&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;I was to see him again during the rut of 2010 when  he spent a lot of time lying near the rental house at the Donnie Dudley  rental house on Winslow Hill.&amp;nbsp; He walked with a pronounced limp and soon  acquired the soubriquet of "Limpy".&amp;nbsp; Eventually he moved to The Saddle  area and figured prominently in the encounter, which I and my brother &lt;a href="http://countrycaptures.blogspot.com/"&gt;Coy of Country Captures&lt;/a&gt;  and retired PGC Deputy Wildlife Conservation Officer, had with the  holder of The Governor's Conservation Elk Tag and his guide on the  morning of September 29th.&amp;nbsp; See  , &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/2010/10/unpleasant-encounter-in-pennsylvania.html"&gt;An Unpleasant Encounter In Pennsylvania Elk Country&lt;/a&gt;, which was originally posted on October 10, 2010.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7SdcA2pSNMw/TpCxdHWvZoI/AAAAAAAACzY/rmJsIhyecCI/s1600/bull+standing+2010.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7SdcA2pSNMw/TpCxdHWvZoI/AAAAAAAACzY/rmJsIhyecCI/s640/bull+standing+2010.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;7x7 Bull "Limpy"&amp;nbsp; September 29th 2010 Before Encounter: Video Still Canon XL-H1 W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;This  is one of those bulls that is very impressive indeed, but seems to have  grown little if any larger since 2009.&amp;nbsp; He is also noted for his deep,  throaty, rumbling bugle, which could be described as a roar. It is one  of the most impressive bugles I have heard!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While one  should always respect these animals and not infringe on their personal  space, this bull is completely acclimated to humans and is very trusting  of them. He is living proof that many Pennsylvania elk are not "as wild  as any" as is often claimed.&amp;nbsp; Hopefully he will not be killed during  the coming season, but if he is, it will be interesting to see how those  involved try to spin this into an exciting, challenging, hunting  adventure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oh8mEdNJ5rE/TpC-29-TsrI/AAAAAAAACzg/6KoIyQmNFEM/s1600/_MG_2981+7x7+bugles+in+woods+8xh.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oh8mEdNJ5rE/TpC-29-TsrI/AAAAAAAACzg/6KoIyQmNFEM/s640/_MG_2981+7x7+bugles+in+woods+8xh.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;7x7 Lying In Woods Near Harem&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;A seasoned outdoorsman who has photographed elk all  over the United States, and hunted them in one of the western states  discussed this situation in detail with my brother last week in Elk  County.&amp;nbsp; His two major points were that these are some of the largest,  most easily seen bulls anywhere in the United States including the  national parks and they are also the most accepting of humans and most  docile he has seen .&amp;nbsp; When discussing that 10 of the 18 bull tags issued  (19 if one considers the Governor's Conservation tag)&amp;nbsp; were for the  Hunt Zones that most directly influence the viewing areas on Winslow  Hill (Zones 2,8, and 10)-his reaction was WHY?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To be continued along with discussion of more facets of the elk management controversy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-4026214304023302844?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/4026214304023302844/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/10/limpy-bull-that-roars-close-look-at.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/4026214304023302844'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/4026214304023302844'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/10/limpy-bull-that-roars-close-look-at.html' title='&quot;Limpy&quot; The Bull That Roars: A Close Look At  A Mature Pennsylvania Bull'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DtlwPtdp8JQ/TpCmBvmcdaI/AAAAAAAACzQ/550DppRt8sw/s72-c/_MG_3005+7x7+in+woods+8xh.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-5333656907306813344</id><published>2011-10-04T14:36:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2011-10-04T14:36:36.753-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>Pennsylvania Elk Rut 2011-Part 1</title><content type='html'>I arrived&amp;nbsp; in Pennsylvania's elk country on the afternoon of  September 18th, and returned home after the morning's activity on Friday  September 30th. Weather conditions were less than ideal, but rutting  activity and photo/filming opportunities were outstanding.&amp;nbsp; At one time I  preferred bright, sunny weather for photography, but now I like to do a  substantial amount of photography&amp;nbsp; and filming in weather which has  "character".&amp;nbsp; Video is especially effective when it is raining or  snowing as the falling precipitation contributes to the "wild" look of  the scene. As usual, there was a lot of fog at times, but this too can  result in dramatic photographs as long as it is not so thick as to  obscure the subject.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0hnAhp8V26o/TorRfIvsQWI/AAAAAAAACy8/eHAqjBJIYcQ/s1600/_MG_2700%2Bfoggy%2Bam.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="427" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0hnAhp8V26o/TorRfIvsQWI/AAAAAAAACy8/eHAqjBJIYcQ/s640/_MG_2700%2Bfoggy%2Bam.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Early Morning Fog Adds Atmosphere To Photos And Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DVaeBwpeoyk/TorVoZVvlfI/AAAAAAAACzA/p1gHYx0Q9bM/s1600/_MG_4854+7x8-herd++in+fog.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DVaeBwpeoyk/TorVoZVvlfI/AAAAAAAACzA/p1gHYx0Q9bM/s640/_MG_4854+7x8-herd++in+fog.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Distant Herd Bull And Harem &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;The warm weather was actually the biggest problem as  rutting activity decreases during warm periods and there were some  evenings that were very disappointing.&amp;nbsp; I recall one in particular where  several bulls arrived at the Gilbert viewing area, only to lie down and  do little except bugle intermittently until it was too dark for good  photographs.&amp;nbsp; I actually do not have many good photographs from this  trip as I concentrated on video and neglected to take stills in many  cases.&amp;nbsp; I am currently in the process of rough editing and archiving the  video from this trip and have almost completed that which was taken  with the Canon XL-H1 and&amp;nbsp; I am now about&amp;nbsp; to begin working with footage  taken with the T3i.&amp;nbsp; Considering the amount and quality of video taken,  this was one of the most outstanding trips to elk country I have ever  had.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another important aspect of the trip is getting  to touch base with a lot of people that one only gets to see once or  twice a year and it is always good to meet blog readers and those that  have seen the elk film.&amp;nbsp; In what is hopefully to be one of many  meetings, Richard Coy organized a gathering and picnic at the old  Benezette School pavilion on Saturday September 24th for those that  discuss the Pennsylvania elk herd on Facebook. He called it "Elk Rut  Shoot 2011".&amp;nbsp; After the afternoon picnic, several members of the group  went to the popular viewing areas on Dewey Road for an evening of elk  photography.&amp;nbsp; I already knew several of the attendees, but it was good  to actually meet the others I only knew as online personalities from  Facebook or the blog,. .&amp;nbsp; In the past few years I&amp;nbsp; have met many people  face to face that I have corresponded with in comments on the blog,  e-mails, and Facebook postings and in most if not all cases, I find them  to be exactly as one expects them to be.&amp;nbsp; Most that are interested in  serious wildlife photography are truly good people and this shows  through in their writing and when one meets them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OLlibq4goAM/TotOo_UOlfI/AAAAAAAACzI/ljh2XS-i2TY/s1600/_MG_2946+elk+rut+shoot+2011.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OLlibq4goAM/TotOo_UOlfI/AAAAAAAACzI/ljh2XS-i2TY/s640/_MG_2946+elk+rut+shoot+2011.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Pennsylvania Elk Rut Shoot 2011; Old&amp;nbsp; Benezette School&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-itSYU6BFH5Y/ToredMgEuGI/AAAAAAAACzE/Bmt8QaijEng/s1600/_MG_2916+paul+odie+ron++david+randy.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-itSYU6BFH5Y/ToredMgEuGI/AAAAAAAACzE/Bmt8QaijEng/s640/_MG_2916+paul+odie+ron++david+randy.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Photographers Meet In Elk Country: Paul Staniszewski, Odie Swartz, Ron Saffer, David Anderson, Randy Quinn&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;I thank all of those that have purchased "The Truth  About Pennsylvania's Elk Herd" and that read the blog.&amp;nbsp; The video, which  was released in the fall of 2008 continues to sell well and is still  pertinent to most of the issues about elk management and the hunt  today.&amp;nbsp; The PGC did eliminate the combined hunt zones, which did address  one of the major concerns discussed in the film, but this year they&amp;nbsp;  negated that by doubling the number of bull tags issued for Hunt Zones 2  and 8, which are immediately adjacent to the elk viewing areas, but  that has been discussed in the past and will hopefully be a subject for  future posts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-5333656907306813344?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/5333656907306813344/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/10/pennsylvania-elk-rut-2011-part-1.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/5333656907306813344'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/5333656907306813344'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/10/pennsylvania-elk-rut-2011-part-1.html' title='Pennsylvania Elk Rut 2011-Part 1'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0hnAhp8V26o/TorRfIvsQWI/AAAAAAAACy8/eHAqjBJIYcQ/s72-c/_MG_2700%2Bfoggy%2Bam.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-7535803541335805056</id><published>2011-09-17T20:03:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-17T20:09:40.916-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsyvania Elk Rut'/><title type='text'>Peak Of Pennsylvania Elk Rut Nears</title><content type='html'>Each year the woods and meadows of Pennsylvania Elk Country resound with the mighty bugle of the bull elk or wapiti as the Indians called him.&amp;nbsp; This is the time that most serious elk enthusiasts journey to Pennsylvania's northwoods to take in the sights and sounds of the rut.&amp;nbsp; The rut actually begins in late August or early September, but the tempo usually picks up considerably by mid-September and peaks around the last week of the month, with activity usually declining rapidly in early October.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With this in mind I am posting a 2minute 57 sec. video clip, which shows the highlights of the 2010 rut, although the video actually starts with two dramatic clips of elk taken during the last few days of October.&amp;nbsp; The next few scenes show clips of the famous character bull "Crazy Legs, Jr." which was killed in elk season last year.&amp;nbsp; Clips of him are interspersed with two different takes of a large collared bull, which was seen frequently at the Gilbert Viewing Area.&amp;nbsp; The number on the collar was damaged too severely to read and I have no idea what number this bull was, but it was one of the largest seen on Winslow Hill. The somewhat smaller collared bull shown is 8A. Also included are several clips of smaller bulls, and a large bull that many referred to as having a drop tine.&amp;nbsp; The video ends with a short, violent clash of antlers between two bulls shortly after dawn on the last morning of the 2010 trip.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="326" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/29190208?title=0&amp;amp;byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0" webkitallowfullscreen="" width="580"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This brief fight was taken&amp;nbsp; with the Canon 7D and a 300mm F4 lens.&amp;nbsp; It was still so dark that I had to use ISO 2000 and the video is not good quality--at least on a large screen HDTV, but is included here because it is dramatic.&amp;nbsp; All too often some of the best action occurs either too early or too late for best photo or video quality. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The video is a good sample of what one can see if they put in the time in the elk range.&amp;nbsp; I hope to see you in Pennsylvania Elk Country this fall.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-7535803541335805056?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/7535803541335805056/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/09/peak-of-pennsylvania-elk-rut-nears.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/7535803541335805056'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/7535803541335805056'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/09/peak-of-pennsylvania-elk-rut-nears.html' title='Peak Of Pennsylvania Elk Rut Nears'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-7044704505432378728</id><published>2011-09-10T21:49:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-10T21:49:34.451-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>More August Elk Encounters</title><content type='html'>Most who are interested in Pennsylvania's elk herd are now focused on the rut, which begins in late August and really gets underway during September.&amp;nbsp; Activity should gradually intensify, with the last two weeks of September or very early October being the best time to travel to elk country to witness the sights and sounds of the rut.&amp;nbsp; Unfortunately we do not yet have any photographs from this year's rut and are still catching up on photographs from the August trip and the western trip.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dawn on Wednesday August 17th found me driving up Winslow Hill Road from Benezette.&amp;nbsp; At 6:30 I spied two bulls feeding on vegetation by the side of the road, so I pulled my Ford Escape to the side of the road.&amp;nbsp; I was concentrating on video this morning and had the Canon T3i with 70-200mm f2.8 mounted on the tripod and resting on soft padding in the rear of the vehicle, so I carefully exited the vehicle, got the camera set up, and began filming the animals.&amp;nbsp; A major reason that I am using the DSLRS more and more to film wildlife is that one still has the option to take high resolution still photos without using another camera and when I had enough footage, I took a few still shots of the animals when they paused from feeding to look at me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5BS2onAZm8s/TmwEChUCRuI/AAAAAAAACyg/3rZzyLAbYQk/s1600/_MG_3257+8xv.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5BS2onAZm8s/TmwEChUCRuI/AAAAAAAACyg/3rZzyLAbYQk/s640/_MG_3257+8xv.jpg" width="512" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Young Bull Pauses From Feeding In Early Morning&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Bvs8LUAWCWk/TmwEZ55gJWI/AAAAAAAACyk/1G2pxjLdKoM/s1600/IMG_3259+6x7-winslow+hill+rd+8xv.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Bvs8LUAWCWk/TmwEZ55gJWI/AAAAAAAACyk/1G2pxjLdKoM/s640/IMG_3259+6x7-winslow+hill+rd+8xv.jpg" width="512" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Second Bull Pauses Before Vanishing Into Brush&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;As it grew later, the bulls vanished into the brush, headed in the direction of a meadow.&amp;nbsp; As I was to find out later, Paul Staniszewski came along about thirty minutes later and found them in the meadow.&amp;nbsp; He got two excellent photographs, which he was good enough to share with us. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-b7UIpWYsHi4/TmwGZKQ82hI/AAAAAAAACys/UuKcGgsS9Q8/s1600/0635+2+bulls+sgl+311-mod.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-b7UIpWYsHi4/TmwGZKQ82hI/AAAAAAAACys/UuKcGgsS9Q8/s640/0635+2+bulls+sgl+311-mod.jpg" width="512" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bulls Posing In Meadow&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Many make the mistake of snapping a photo of animals and then quickly moving on in search of another, but patience often pays off and Paul stayed in position for awhile in hopes that something interesting would occur, and he was rewarded when they engaged in a sparring match.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-31ol-uv5LtU/TmwG_5UscTI/AAAAAAAACyw/_Riml4KX_-c/s1600/0646+2+bulls+sparring-mod.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-31ol-uv5LtU/TmwG_5UscTI/AAAAAAAACyw/_Riml4KX_-c/s640/0646+2+bulls+sparring-mod.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bulls Sparring-Not To Be Confused With Fighting&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;These are beautiful bulls, but they are not large mature bulls--not even close.&amp;nbsp; I was amazed during the August trip how many people would tell me there were two large bulls just down the road and I should go and photograph them.&amp;nbsp; I am almost certain that this is the two they were talking about and I knew I would get photos of them when the time was right, but at that time I was working a really large bull--at least for August on Winslow Hill after several years of trophy hunting, which has really hurt the resident mature bull&amp;nbsp; population.&amp;nbsp; The bull below is one of the few large resident bulls on Winslow Hill and his chances of surviving to reach his full potential are not great.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-291lpirZn1Q/TmwK1aewcAI/AAAAAAAACy0/0qfEEU3T6GE/s1600/IMG_3147+9x8+golden+rod.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-291lpirZn1Q/TmwK1aewcAI/AAAAAAAACy0/0qfEEU3T6GE/s640/IMG_3147+9x8+golden+rod.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;A Large Bull With The Potential To Become Exceptional If Allowed To Live&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am told by reliable sources that there are some outstanding bulls in the outlying areas and that some if not many of them should show up on Winslow Hill for the rut.&amp;nbsp; Many bulls do travel extreme distances to visit the traditional breeding grounds on Winslow Hill, but in the past there were several large bulls that lived in the immediate area the entire year.&amp;nbsp; At this point most of them have been shot in hunting season or died of old age (Fred &amp;amp; Bill Jr.) and have not been replaced by younger bulls as they are taken either before, or immediately when they become exceptional.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When visiting elk country be sure to look for Paul Staniszewski's&amp;nbsp; floral note cards and photographs in the Elk Country Visitor Center gift shop.&amp;nbsp; If you have not already purchased my two part documentary film, "The Truth About Pennsylvania's Elk Herd", please stop by Benezette Store and Restaurant and have them show you a portion of the film on the wide screen HDTV in the store and consider purchasing it.&amp;nbsp; The film gives a brief overall history of Pennsylvania elk, but concentrates on the period from 1995 when I first began filming elk until 2008 when the film was completed.&amp;nbsp; It gives a detailed view of the life cycle of the elk, with an emphasis on the rut.&amp;nbsp; It also covers the most famous character bulls of the period such as Fred, Bad Boy, Mean Bill, and Screamer.&amp;nbsp; The film closes by taking a look at elk management issues and the controversy surrounding the hunt.&amp;nbsp; While some things did change for the better since then, the PGC largely negated the positive changes this year by boosting the bull allocations in Zone 2 and Zone 8 this year and again unwarranted hunting pressure is being directed at the bulls that live around the viewing areas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-7044704505432378728?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/7044704505432378728/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/09/more-august-elk-encounters.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/7044704505432378728'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/7044704505432378728'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/09/more-august-elk-encounters.html' title='More August Elk Encounters'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5BS2onAZm8s/TmwEChUCRuI/AAAAAAAACyg/3rZzyLAbYQk/s72-c/_MG_3257+8xv.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-3693352112948801857</id><published>2011-08-26T11:52:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-26T11:54:34.225-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>A Pennsylvania Elk Season Story--Eyewitness Recounts Killing Of Well Known Bull</title><content type='html'>After a successful morning of elk photography on Wednesday of last  week, I found Bob and James Shank, Ron Saffer, and Paul Staniszewski  gathered in the parking lot by the ponds on Dewey Road.&amp;nbsp; For a time we  had an enjoyable discussion about elk photography and cameras and soon  another elk watcher and photographer arrived. I&amp;nbsp; found that he too had experienced a successful morning.&amp;nbsp; Eventually the conversation turned to last  year's elk season and he told me that he had personally seen the killing  of a well known "character" bull on the first day of the 2010 season. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As  he related the story, he arrived in a certain area to find several  bulls in a meadow that had houses and camps on every side of it.&amp;nbsp; The  bulls&amp;nbsp; were surrounded by a large number of persons who appeared to be&amp;nbsp;  assisting in the hunt, but no bull was shot at this point.&amp;nbsp; It seems  they were keeping the animals there so that if the bull they wanted did  not arrive, the person they were guiding (who had a bull tag) could kill  one of these animals. One of these bulls was an extremely impressive  animal and another guide who was not part of this hunting party was  allegedly complaining about this party keeping the bulls from leaving  the meadow so that others could not shoot any of them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In  time the famous character bull came walking from the woods by a camp on  the opposite side of a township road from where the bulls were in the  meadow, crossed the road, and headed&amp;nbsp; toward the general area where the  other bulls were.&amp;nbsp; As he left the township road, he entered an area,  which was a mixture of small to mid-sized&amp;nbsp; trees and open grasses. A  portion of the&amp;nbsp; hunting party arrived and the shooter was positioned  some distance from the road in this meadow..&amp;nbsp; At this point the witness  estimates the bull was&amp;nbsp; about 50 yards from the shooter.&amp;nbsp; It seems he  missed the animal completely with the first shot and the bull gave  little to no reaction to being shot at. The shooter was then placed a  few feet from that position&amp;nbsp; and he fired again--this time hitting the  animal in a leg, and again there was little if any reaction to the  gunfire and the bullet wound other than to move enough that the shooter  had to be repositioned.&amp;nbsp; The third shot was fatal and a famous  Pennsylvania bull elk was no more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On Thursday morning  the witness and I traveled to the area and he related the account again  to me again as we stood near to where this all occurred.&amp;nbsp; Later in the  morning another source confirmed that the bull was killed in that spot  and the story as told was consistent with the accepted details of the  story that they "the source" was aware of.&amp;nbsp; There were a few small  details that they had not heard from others participating in the event  so they could not comment on those aspects.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is  known as a good area to see elk, so I left Benezette before dawn on  Friday morning so as to be there by photographic light, but I  encountered a bachelor group in a roadside meadow as day was breaking so  I paused for awhile to film and photograph these animals. This turned  out to be one of the best photo opportunities of the trip.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_G3a0g1edc0/TlexdHm-N9I/AAAAAAAACyE/Kb7Ckr30Pbs/s1600/_MG_1284+mature+bull+in+fog.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_G3a0g1edc0/TlexdHm-N9I/AAAAAAAACyE/Kb7Ckr30Pbs/s640/_MG_1284+mature+bull+in+fog.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Foggy Morning 6x7-Velvet Hanging In Strips: 500mmF4&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Another respectable bull was with this one along with  at least two raghorns.&amp;nbsp; This one is a bit smaller, and the points are  somewhat difficult to count.&amp;nbsp; Some would call him a 6x7, while others  might say 6x5.&amp;nbsp; I am not sure if one of the points on the left antler is  long enough to be considered a point, but I suspect it is not.&amp;nbsp; There  were also two raghorns with them, but they were not photographed,  although they were successfully filmed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mCx2xggJDLA/TlexcOQc3tI/AAAAAAAACyA/L90uEDFTYUM/s1600/_MG_1267+6x7-other+bull.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mCx2xggJDLA/TlexcOQc3tI/AAAAAAAACyA/L90uEDFTYUM/s640/_MG_1267+6x7-other+bull.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bulls In Early Morning Fog: 300mm F2.8&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;I resumed my journey once this encounter ended and  although it was growing late in the morning to see elk the fog still  lingered, which increased the probability that the elk would stay in the  open later than usual.&amp;nbsp; I arrived&amp;nbsp; to find a bull alternating between  grazing and feeding on apples--this in the same field where the bull was  killed in elk season.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gdDiOT_237Y/Tle4baxSz2I/AAAAAAAACyI/nKmhUpxOVT0/s1600/_MG_1296+bull+feeding+on+apples+8xh.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gdDiOT_237Y/Tle4baxSz2I/AAAAAAAACyI/nKmhUpxOVT0/s640/_MG_1296+bull+feeding+on+apples+8xh.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bull Feeding On Apples: 300mm F2.8&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;I was filming him when several persons arrived on  the scene in a pickup truck and stopped some distance away.&amp;nbsp; Soon I  realized that one of them was standing beside me and he remarked that I  needed to "put a set of crosshairs on that thing, and put a barrel on it  and then squeeze the trigger".&amp;nbsp; With that remark he turned and walked  away.&amp;nbsp; The bull went into the edge of the woods but came back out so I  mounted the 300mm F2.8 on the tripod and photographed the animal.&amp;nbsp; After  awhile he left the tree and headed for a nearby lawn and as he did so a  vehicle came down the driveway from the house.&amp;nbsp; It was the person that  lived there and he was on his way to work.&amp;nbsp; He pulled up to me and said,  "take him along with you", and then told me that it had been a very dry  summer and the elk had severely damaged his corn and garden and in fact  a small bull was in the garden as we spoke and the one shown here today  was on his way to join in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With that it was time to  head back for Benezette and then for home. I did have some more bull  encounters on the way, but that is a story for another time as is an  analysis of this situation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-3693352112948801857?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/3693352112948801857/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/08/pennsylvania-elk-season-story.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/3693352112948801857'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/3693352112948801857'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/08/pennsylvania-elk-season-story.html' title='A Pennsylvania Elk Season Story--Eyewitness Recounts Killing Of Well Known Bull'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_G3a0g1edc0/TlexdHm-N9I/AAAAAAAACyE/Kb7Ckr30Pbs/s72-c/_MG_1284+mature+bull+in+fog.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-1852236911899346966</id><published>2011-08-20T16:01:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2011-08-20T16:03:33.586-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Management: Tourism And Hunting'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk In Summer-Shedding Of Velvet'/><title type='text'>The Velvet Is Shed As Pennsylvania Elk Rut Approaches</title><content type='html'>August is a month of change for the Pennsylvania elk herd.&amp;nbsp; The  antlers complete their development in July and the velvet dries out and  cracks in early to mid-August with many bulls starting the shedding  process during the second week of August.&amp;nbsp; I was in Pennsylvania Elk  Country from August 15th through the 19th, looking to document this  process and&amp;nbsp; found what would prove to be the largest bull of the trip  lying in a meadow beside Winslow Hill Road on Monday evening.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sJIksVmavcM/Tk_5hUTH8vI/AAAAAAAACxw/fRouXl_nsFY/s1600/_MG_1183+8x9++near+apple+trees.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sJIksVmavcM/Tk_5hUTH8vI/AAAAAAAACxw/fRouXl_nsFY/s640/_MG_1183+8x9++near+apple+trees.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;9x8 Bull Elk Starting To Shed Velvet&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;It is difficult to see with the size of the photo on  the blog, but count forward three points from the back of the left beam  and then look just below the two points that are clustered together and  you can see the first bloody, partially bare patch on his antlers.&amp;nbsp;  Eventually he got up, dislodged some apples from a nearby tree with his  antlers, and rubbed the velvet against the limbs.&amp;nbsp; At this point one  could also see some blood and partially bare areas on the other antler  as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I found him in the same spot at dawn on  Tuesday morning and the shedding was much more advanced, but he still  had a long way to go.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NVZPbi-ZSis/Tk_7D8JmZXI/AAAAAAAACx0/YFjzxlTL1q0/s1600/_MG_1187+9x8++apple+tree+early+am.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NVZPbi-ZSis/Tk_7D8JmZXI/AAAAAAAACx0/YFjzxlTL1q0/s640/_MG_1187+9x8++apple+tree+early+am.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bare Spots Are Larger Next Morning With Strips Of Velvet Hanging Loose&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;I was at this meadow at dawn on Thursday morning ,  but he was not there so I went on the Hick's Run viewing area where I  saw a lot of whitetail deer, but sometime after I left&amp;nbsp; well known elk  watcher and photographer Lamie Wheler saw him crossing the meadow and  took a series of photos of&amp;nbsp; him as he violently rubbed an autumn olive  bush less than twenty yards from the road.&amp;nbsp; This was exactly what I  wanted to film with the video camera, but alas I was in the wrong  place.&amp;nbsp; Later in the morning I encountered him at the edge of some  woodlands and only a few strips of velvet remained. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FrdZOlVOGSo/TlAC3II6oMI/AAAAAAAACx4/SGFSPRYgJF4/s1600/IMG_3412+9x8+velvet+almost+shed++8xh.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FrdZOlVOGSo/TlAC3II6oMI/AAAAAAAACx4/SGFSPRYgJF4/s640/IMG_3412+9x8+velvet+almost+shed++8xh.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Shedding Almost Complete On Thursday Morning&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;I checked the meadow again that evening as dusk was  falling and he was moving across it in such a manner that&amp;nbsp; it was  obvious that he was not going to linger long enough to take still  photographs so I mounted the Canon XL-H1 camcorder and got a a few video  clips before he vanished from sight.&amp;nbsp; As best as I could tell the  antlers were completely bare by this point.&amp;nbsp; All of the above photos  were taken with the Canon 500mmF4 IS.&amp;nbsp; The first two are with the Canon  7D and the third with the T3i.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope to post more  photographs from the trip over the next few days, but the trip was not  only about photography, but&amp;nbsp; elk management issues as well. With the  annual&amp;nbsp; drawing for elk licenses being held in September and elk season  being held from October 31--November 5th and the extended season from  November 7th through the 12th--there is is quite a bit of talk about the  events of the past season and the decision to issue 10 of the 18 bull  tags for Zone 2, 8, and 10 this year.&amp;nbsp; These are the zones that most  directly impact the areas where most visitors look for elk.&amp;nbsp; If one  includes the special conservation tag, this means a total of 11 of the  bulls that frequent the center of elk related tourism could be killed.&amp;nbsp;  With hunter success rate running between approximately 90-100% on bulls  this effectively means that there is a high possibility that at least 10  of the bulls that you see on Winslow Hill this September will be dead  by mid-November.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As disturbing as this is, it was  eclipsed by an eyewitness account of the killing of a bull during the  past season.&amp;nbsp; I hope to share at least portions of this story in the  next post.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-1852236911899346966?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/1852236911899346966/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/08/velvet-is-shed-as-pennsylvania-elk-rut.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/1852236911899346966'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/1852236911899346966'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/08/velvet-is-shed-as-pennsylvania-elk-rut.html' title='The Velvet Is Shed As Pennsylvania Elk Rut Approaches'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sJIksVmavcM/Tk_5hUTH8vI/AAAAAAAACxw/fRouXl_nsFY/s72-c/_MG_1183+8x9++near+apple+trees.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-865364927534817609</id><published>2011-07-23T12:45:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2011-07-23T12:46:55.356-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bulls In Velvet'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk In Summer'/><title type='text'>Capturing The Special Moments</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pXKEbZpXGnE/TirxOf2wjYI/AAAAAAAACwg/oCo_dSDCSMs/s1600/_MG_0081+6x8-g.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pXKEbZpXGnE/TirxOf2wjYI/AAAAAAAACwg/oCo_dSDCSMs/s640/_MG_0081+6x8-g.jpg" width="512" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;6x8 In Reverting Meadow&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;In the last Post, I briefly mentioned that Paul Staniszewski, a frequent contributor to this blog,&amp;nbsp; has a website, &lt;a href="http://www.dacota.us/elk"&gt;"The At of Elk Photography"&lt;/a&gt;. The site contains information on his Floral Macro Photog and Elk Photography, a map of the Benezette Area, a guide to photographing elk geared toward the new visitor to elk country, and a link to the PA Wilds website.&amp;nbsp; Paul reminds us that the site is under construction and the finished product is a long way off, but&amp;nbsp; he is off to a good start so be sure to visit his site.To do so click &lt;a href="http://www.dacota.us/elk"&gt;Here!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;During my recent trip to Pennsylvania Elk Country I only saw one fairly impressive rack bull on Winslow Hill, but I saw him every morning at dawn.&amp;nbsp; He seldom missed stopping by this apple tree before heading into the nearby woodlands to escape the heat of day. There was a good reason why that he stopped by this tree and it is one of those things that the dedicated nature photographer is always looking for.&amp;nbsp; If you just drive up and snap a photo out the window and then drive away, you usually miss the special moments, but one must often work a situation as long as conditions are good, to capture the special moments. In this instance it was fascinating to watch him use the top of his antlers to knock small apples off of the tree so that he could feed on them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2UP7AtrtrUg/TirzZCc3PgI/AAAAAAAACwk/tMQRCJ8ccP4/s1600/_MG_0058+6x8+horns+apple+tree++8xh++pnr.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2UP7AtrtrUg/TirzZCc3PgI/AAAAAAAACwk/tMQRCJ8ccP4/s640/_MG_0058+6x8+horns+apple+tree++8xh++pnr.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bull Uses Antlers To Dislodge Apples&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1ciSJ8smDAE/Tir14wKBRdI/AAAAAAAACwo/YwbiYDzqeC0/s1600/_MG_0080+6x8-nuzzles+apple+tree.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1ciSJ8smDAE/Tir14wKBRdI/AAAAAAAACwo/YwbiYDzqeC0/s640/_MG_0080+6x8-nuzzles+apple+tree.jpg" width="512" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bull Strains To Reach Apples&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This 6x8 is not an exceptional, nor yet a mature bull, but he is a good step above a raghorn.&amp;nbsp; Like all bulls on Winslow Hill, this one is trusting of humans. Two large but completely acclimated bulls have been killed near this spot in elk season during recent years.&amp;nbsp; Now the PGC has launched a public relations offensive in Game News with the last two issues, each carrying a story about Pennsylvania Elk hunting, in an attempt to portray this as a challenging, fair chase hunt, which it may be in some cases but especially not in the areas of Zone 2 on or in close proximity to Winslow Hill .&amp;nbsp; With the license allocation increasing in both Zone 2 and Zone 8 by two bulls each, the chances for this animal reaching an exceptional size are slim.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-865364927534817609?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/865364927534817609/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/07/capturing-special-moments.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/865364927534817609'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/865364927534817609'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/07/capturing-special-moments.html' title='Capturing The Special Moments'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pXKEbZpXGnE/TirxOf2wjYI/AAAAAAAACwg/oCo_dSDCSMs/s72-c/_MG_0081+6x8-g.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-7579515776677601101</id><published>2011-07-20T09:40:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2011-07-20T12:00:15.310-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sinnemahoning Visitor Facility'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Elk Management and Tourism'/><title type='text'>Sinnemahoning Visitor's Facility To Open: by Paul Staniszewski</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JKBzj81ERZo/TibXmWmLLnI/AAAAAAAACwc/nzCkMB2pj48/s1600/svc.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JKBzj81ERZo/TibXmWmLLnI/AAAAAAAACwc/nzCkMB2pj48/s640/svc.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Sinnemahoning State Park Visitor Facility:&lt;/span&gt; Photo by Paul Staniszewski-all rights reserved&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A new jewel has been added to the crown of the Pennsylvania Wilds Elk Scenic Drive.The official name is the Sinnemahoning State Park - Visitor Facility and it is located 5 miles from the boat launch located at the George B. Stevenson Dam on a scenic road that parallels the First Fork Branch of the Sinnemahoning Creek.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to Lisa Bainey, Park Manager, the Visitor Facility is completed and they are waiting for furniture to &lt;br /&gt;be delivered by the end of the month and that the official dedication and opening will be sometime in mid-August.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The cost of the facility is $3,782,000.00 and will include a large exhibit/interpretive area, classrooms, visitor services and park administration.The building was placed to take full advantage of views of nearby elk herd feeding plots and other wildlife. Also, the 142 acre Stevenson Dam is known to be the home to a pair of year-round nesting eagles and various waterfowl that can be observed from the boat launch area.. The new Visitors Center is approximately 30 miles from Benezette and represents some of Pennsylvania's most pristine wilderness and is well worth the trip. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Story and photo by Paul Staniszewski.  For more information about Paul's photography, elk photography tips, and more, visit Paul's website: &lt;a href="http://www.dacota.us/elk"&gt;The Art Of Elk Photography&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at&lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt; Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-7579515776677601101?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/7579515776677601101/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/07/sinnemahoning-visitors-facility-to-open.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/7579515776677601101'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/7579515776677601101'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/07/sinnemahoning-visitors-facility-to-open.html' title='Sinnemahoning Visitor&apos;s Facility To Open: by Paul Staniszewski'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JKBzj81ERZo/TibXmWmLLnI/AAAAAAAACwc/nzCkMB2pj48/s72-c/svc.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-5955633589252565445</id><published>2011-07-18T12:35:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-07-18T12:36:04.736-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Elk Calves'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk In Summer'/><title type='text'>Mid-Summer Elk Calf Photography in Pennsylvania Elk Country</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-L6aPRunKkj4/TiRCulkIacI/AAAAAAAACwI/OwygOlVybLY/s1600/_MG_1437+back+country+food+plot.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-L6aPRunKkj4/TiRCulkIacI/AAAAAAAACwI/OwygOlVybLY/s640/_MG_1437+back+country+food+plot.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;PGC Food Plots Cloaked In Heat And Haze of Mid-Summer Evening&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;I spent most of last week photographing and filming wildlife in Pennsylvania Elk Country with a primary focus on calf elk and bulls in velvet.&amp;nbsp; The PGC had completed most if not all of their summer mowing program on SGL 311 on Winslow Hill by the end of the week.&amp;nbsp; With sufficient moisture the grass soon grows enough that it provides excellent forage for wildlife and is more pleasing in appearance, but with the region&amp;nbsp; suffering from a severe drought, many of the food plots that had been mowed had a burned desolate appearance and little wildlife was to be seen in them. Even without rain this should improve to a certain extent in the weeks to come, but a soaking rain&amp;nbsp; would make the meadows explode with life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There were a lot of cows and calves to be seen, but photographic conditions were extremely difficult as most of the encounters occurred when it was too early or too late for the cameras to work well, or the range was too long or the cover too tall.&amp;nbsp; Most of the elk were attracted to the grain that is planted in the reclaimed areas of The Saddle and in many areas it was too tall to see the calves.&amp;nbsp; I finally found several calves in a good situation early Friday morning.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I had seen them near the ponds on Dewey Road on one other morning and again on Thursday evening, so this seemed like the best chance for success on Friday morning, but first I checked a nearby meadow where I had seen a bull throughout the week and he was there. Paul Staniszewski arrived shortly after I did and we photographed the bull for a short time, but I left for the ponds as soon as possible so as to get there before sunrise.&amp;nbsp; There was a large herd of cows and calves in the meadow around one of the ponds.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Initially I filmed the elk with a Canon Rebel T3i and the 500mmF4, but then decided to try for still photographs and mounted the 7D and 500mmF4 on the Gitzo tripod with Wimberley Head and the XL-H1 video camera on the video tripod.&amp;nbsp; It is hard enough to get either good stills or video segments, but just try alternating between the two sometime or even shooting both simultaneously.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; It is difficult, but regardless of this,&amp;nbsp; I did get some acceptable photographs and video clips.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TsSTkJZS-5Q/TiRVE9zNAPI/AAAAAAAACwM/J9tHdx_YkUA/s1600/_MG_0119+cow+nurses+calf+pond+bank.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TsSTkJZS-5Q/TiRVE9zNAPI/AAAAAAAACwM/J9tHdx_YkUA/s640/_MG_0119+cow+nurses+calf+pond+bank.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Calf Nursing On Pond Bank&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;b&gt; Note light fog on reeds and grasses to left of elk.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Paul soon arrived and got some photographs, but soon the rays of the sun&amp;nbsp; touched the tree tops, and before long the elk went into the hollow between Dewey Road and the food plot to the south.&amp;nbsp; We were discussing the results of the morning shoot when Paul said, "look there", and two calves came running onto the&amp;nbsp; pond bank directly across from us. I quickly framed one of them and took several photographs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Z-e_L5Sr6Cc/TiRYgjbfLoI/AAAAAAAACwQ/39t_UuZoQAc/s1600/_MG_0148+calf+pond+bank+8xh.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Z-e_L5Sr6Cc/TiRYgjbfLoI/AAAAAAAACwQ/39t_UuZoQAc/s640/_MG_0148+calf+pond+bank+8xh.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Calf Standing On Pond Bank&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-x8J3B0CkapQ/TiRYzmLPfqI/AAAAAAAACwU/HzUjeDPBQ6k/s1600/_MG_0181+calf+pond+bank.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-x8J3B0CkapQ/TiRYzmLPfqI/AAAAAAAACwU/HzUjeDPBQ6k/s640/_MG_0181+calf+pond+bank.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Calf&amp;nbsp; Reverses Direction&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;At this point I realized the other calf was not in sight and looked to my left, searching for him.&amp;nbsp; Paul was frantically firing away at another spot and I suddenly realized I was missing the best action of all as the other calf was drinking from the pond!&amp;nbsp; I tried to compose the shot, but there was too much grass between me and the calf.&amp;nbsp; Taking a few steps to the side helped somewhat and then the calf lifted its' head and I was able to capture it with a water droplet dripping from its' chin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0btYk0BD6bY/TiRaeY8JQtI/AAAAAAAACwY/SHFHfKt85Zc/s1600/_MG_0170+calf+pauses+from+drinking+.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0btYk0BD6bY/TiRaeY8JQtI/AAAAAAAACwY/SHFHfKt85Zc/s640/_MG_0170+calf+pauses+from+drinking+.jpg" width="512" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Calf&amp;nbsp; After Drinking&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;The calf did not return to drinking but rather in a few moments rejoined its' companion on the pond bank and together they went into the woods to escape the searing rays of the sun as the rest of the herd had already done.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally Posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-5955633589252565445?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/5955633589252565445/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/07/mid-summer-elk-calf-photography-in.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/5955633589252565445'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/5955633589252565445'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/07/mid-summer-elk-calf-photography-in.html' title='Mid-Summer Elk Calf Photography in Pennsylvania Elk Country'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-L6aPRunKkj4/TiRCulkIacI/AAAAAAAACwI/OwygOlVybLY/s72-c/_MG_1437+back+country+food+plot.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-1765797174177900290</id><published>2011-07-08T11:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-07-08T11:31:21.277-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk In Summer'/><title type='text'>Excellent  Mid-Summer Photo Opportunites In Benezette Area</title><content type='html'>With summer well underway, there are plenty of excellent photo opportunities in the Benezette area, with the young calves and the bulls with their velvet covered racks being the main attraction. Antlers growth is rapid and they&amp;nbsp; already were quite large by mid-June, when Paul Staniszewski photographed a fine bull shortly after dawn on Winslow Hill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8Qz7KBJx1ro/ThcYK-ckwkI/AAAAAAAACwA/P4ucfNMwdiI/s1600/0348+mid+june+winslow+hill-use.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8Qz7KBJx1ro/ThcYK-ckwkI/AAAAAAAACwA/P4ucfNMwdiI/s640/0348+mid+june+winslow+hill-use.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Bulls Have Substantial Antler Growth By Mid-June:&lt;/span&gt; Photo by Paul Staniszewski-all rights reserved&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;By early July they are almost completely developed with most if not all of the points the animal will grow being present and&amp;nbsp; most of the antler mass is developed.&amp;nbsp; From now on growth will&amp;nbsp; mostly be a further increase in mass, and the tines will become sharper.&amp;nbsp; On Tuesday, Paul was on his way to the Elk Country Visitor Center to replenish his stock of elk and flower cards and framed larger format photographs, which are for sale in the gift shop, when he encountered an impressive bull by the roadside on Gray Hill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oXIy-yjYXnE/ThcZxPCDm7I/AAAAAAAACwE/yIxaUXlrovM/s1600/0453+attitude-use.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oXIy-yjYXnE/ThcZxPCDm7I/AAAAAAAACwE/yIxaUXlrovM/s640/0453+attitude-use.jpg" width="426" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Mature Bull On Gray Hill: &lt;/span&gt;Photo by Paul Staniszewski-all rights reserved&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;This is one of the few "character" bulls remaining and is known as Mr. Attitude, by several elk watchers and photographers.&amp;nbsp; This bull has spent a lot of time in downtown Benezette and is totally acclimated to humans.&amp;nbsp; It seems certain that he spends a substantial part of the year , if not all of it in the No Hunt Zone, Hunt Zones 2, and 8, and possibly Hunt Zone 10. With four bull tags issued for hunt zone 2 , 4 for zone 8, and two for Zone 10, this means that most likely TEN bulls will be shot in the areas immediately surrounding the center of elk tourism on Winslow Hill, since the success rate on bulls seems to range from 90%--100% and one can be certain that it will be the largest bulls that will be shot if they are seen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bearing this in mind, tourists and photographers should enjoy seeing this animal while they can, as it is not likely he will live to see another year unless he is lucky enough to stay in the No Hunt Zone or be on property where elk hunting is not allowed, during the elk season.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I thank Paul for sharing these photographs.&amp;nbsp; When visiting the area, be sure to check out his merchandise, along with that of many other artisans at the Elk Country Visitor Center.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-1765797174177900290?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/1765797174177900290/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/07/excellent-mid-summer-photo-opportunites.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/1765797174177900290'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/1765797174177900290'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/07/excellent-mid-summer-photo-opportunites.html' title='Excellent  Mid-Summer Photo Opportunites In Benezette Area'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8Qz7KBJx1ro/ThcYK-ckwkI/AAAAAAAACwA/P4ucfNMwdiI/s72-c/0348+mid+june+winslow+hill-use.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-338188033187919034</id><published>2011-06-30T15:28:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-06-30T15:28:17.944-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Management:'/><title type='text'>Pennsylvania Elk Management: Tourism and Hunting</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-goVdPpCgzEU/TgzH9HGnN1I/AAAAAAAACvw/ToKnQ6KDxaI/s1600/_MG_7963+it+isnt+always+a+warden.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-goVdPpCgzEU/TgzH9HGnN1I/AAAAAAAACvw/ToKnQ6KDxaI/s640/_MG_7963+it+isnt+always+a+warden.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;It Isn't Always "A Warden": Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Most people automatically think of lawn enforcement   when they see a truck with Pennsylvania Game Commission Decals and   assume that this is "the&amp;nbsp; game warden" whose primary mission as they   perceive it is to "catch people".&amp;nbsp; It is also quite common for many to   not be able to differentiate between&amp;nbsp; Pennsylvania Game Commission and   DCNR personnel and operations.&amp;nbsp; Both misconceptions are very   understandable--especially the last one, as in many if not most states   one agency oversees outdoor/nature related matters, while here in   Pennsylvania three agencies fulfill this mission.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The   Fish and Boat Commission enforces laws&amp;nbsp; pertaining to waterways,   boating, and fishing, and&amp;nbsp; the taking of reptiles and amphibians., DCNR   maintains State Forests and Parks and has both a maintenance and   enforcement branch, while the Game Commission is responsible for&amp;nbsp; the   maintenance of State Game Lands, and the enforcement of wildlife laws   throughout the Commonwealth.&amp;nbsp; To compound the confusion officers from   any of these agencies may in most cases enforce laws and regulations   pertaining to the other agencies and all of the agencies have   maintenance crews that may drive vehicles with door decals.&amp;nbsp; For many   years most PGC vehicles were green, as were most DCNR vehicles.&amp;nbsp; This   helped differentiate them from Fish and Boat Commission personnel,who   usually drove&amp;nbsp; white vehicles, but this distinction has blurred in   recent years as&amp;nbsp; it is common to see other colors in the PGC--especially   in the land management division--I am not quite sure about the other   agencies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The upshot is that in many cases the person   you thought is the "game warden" is not a law enforcement officers at   all, or at least law-enforcement is not the primary focus of their   duties. They may be a biologist, forester, maintenance worker, or land   management officer.&amp;nbsp; The land management officer does in most if not all   cases have law-enforcement powers, but the others do not--unless they   are deputy wildlife conservation officers. Actually there is officially   no such thing as a game warden anymore, Wildlife Conservation Officer  is  the correct term, but to many they are still "the wardens".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To   understand this better, let's start in Harrisburg where PGC operations   is divided into several bureaus, each covering a particular group of   activities.&amp;nbsp; The names have changed since my days with the PGC, when I   performed duties for the Bureau of Land Management, and the Bureau of   Law Enforcement.&amp;nbsp; Today they are known as the Bureau of Wildlife Habitat   Management and the Bureau of Wildlife Protection.&amp;nbsp; The state is  divided  into six regions, with each region having a regional office and  chiefs  of each of the respective areas of operations who are known as   Supervisors.&amp;nbsp; From this point of we will confine our discussion to   wildlife habitat management or "land management" as I still think of   it.&amp;nbsp; The regional Land Management Supervisor directs a group of Land   Management Officers also known as Game Lands Maintenance Group   Supervisors. Commonly called Land Management Officers (LMOs). They are   responsible for game lands maintenance and habitat development in two or   more counties.&amp;nbsp; LMOs supervise&amp;nbsp; Game Lands Maintenance Groups, which   are usually comprised of two to three crews of Game Lands Maintenance   Workers, who in turn are supervised by a Game Lands Maintenance   Supervisor, also commonly known as a Labor Foreman.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Game   Commission maintenance crews are called "The Food and Cover Corps",  a   name which is not commonly known to many outside the agency.&amp;nbsp; It is   these people that you see mowing and planting the food plots on Winslow   Hill.&amp;nbsp; John Dzemyan is Land Management Officer for portions of Elk and   McKean Counties and oversees the PGC lands on Winslow Hill, while Land   Management officer Colleen Shannon is assigned to portions of Cameron,   Clearfield, Clinton,&amp;nbsp; Elk, and McKean Counties, much of which is prime   elk habitat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rcRq9Ypo5Is/Tgy3MV64_7I/AAAAAAAACvk/0xMg5UmrtpE/s1600/_MG_7908+lmo+j+dzemyan.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rcRq9Ypo5Is/Tgy3MV64_7I/AAAAAAAACvk/0xMg5UmrtpE/s640/_MG_7908+lmo+j+dzemyan.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Land Management Officer John Dzemyan Addresses Wild About Elk Workshop 2010: photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;In the last few years, quite a bit of planting has   been done in  conjunction with the reclamation work that has transformed   Winslow Hill.&amp;nbsp; To  the best of my knowledge this was not done by the   PGC, but any future  work that is done will likely be performed by the   Food and Cover Corps.&amp;nbsp;  The summer mowing is done by them, as is the   yearly  planting of the food plot at the main Gilbert viewing area, the   plot by the cabin on the  hill. and the food plot at the Dent's Run   Viewing Area. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZTkzizpK-Yc/TgyulQr5UHI/AAAAAAAACvU/UHQbkT986HU/s1600/_MG_5885+glmw+prepares+food+plot+at+gilbert.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZTkzizpK-Yc/TgyulQr5UHI/AAAAAAAACvU/UHQbkT986HU/s640/_MG_5885+glmw+prepares+food+plot+at+gilbert.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Game Lands Maintenance Worker, PGC Food and Cover Corp, prepares plot at Gilbert for planting: photo W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0UurHvJmR14/Tgy0R7EJYaI/AAAAAAAACvg/hqf2la3T94g/s1600/_MG_0524+herd+at+cabin+311.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0UurHvJmR14/Tgy0R7EJYaI/AAAAAAAACvg/hqf2la3T94g/s640/_MG_0524+herd+at+cabin+311.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;PGC Food Plot To Right Of Cabin on Winslow Hill: Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;As a result of the reclamation work and food plots   maintained by the PGC, there are now more good grasses on  the hill than   at any time in recent memory. This attracts elk from other  areas and   helps keep the animals there. While a certain amount would be there  even  through no work were done, animals naturally search out the best  food  available. But after a few years, the most attractive grasses such  as,  clovers, and trefoil&amp;nbsp; die out in the meadows and they lose much of  their  appeal to elk. At that point a certain amount of elk would  likely  disperse from Winslow Hill if they could find better food in  another  area.&amp;nbsp; As a result, the PGC conducts an aggressive planting and  mowing  program to maintain the quality of wildlife habitat on Game  Commission  lands, while DCNR workers perform the same function on State  Forest  Lands.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Jux_Khwk4I4/Tgyx050BLdI/AAAAAAAACvY/Yj1guYtNwC4/s1600/_MG_0437+pgc+mows+gilbert.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Jux_Khwk4I4/Tgyx050BLdI/AAAAAAAACvY/Yj1guYtNwC4/s640/_MG_0437+pgc+mows+gilbert.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Game Lands Maintenance Worker, Roger Beck, Mows SGL 311 near Winslow Hill Parking Lot: Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Many may ask why that areas should be mowed and in   many cases the PGC does not mow an entire plot, but does leaves strips   of grasses standing..&amp;nbsp; The problem is that if no maintenance is done,   the opening eventually reverts to forest, which results in the loss of   grassy, open habitat that elk and other species need for ideal living   conditions.&amp;nbsp; From the standpoint of wildlife photography, had the area   in the photo below not been mowed, only the top of the cow's back would   have been visible, while&amp;nbsp; the mowing benefits the welfare of the elk,  by  removing the mature, coarse grass stem and stimulating the growth of   the low lying base of the plant offering improved grazing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Br1EAXRbyig/TgyzFK4cJiI/AAAAAAAACvc/H0HE_NCnQFM/s1600/_MG_0561+cow+calf+nursing+.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="424" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Br1EAXRbyig/TgyzFK4cJiI/AAAAAAAACvc/H0HE_NCnQFM/s640/_MG_0561+cow+calf+nursing+.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mowing May Enhance Photographic Opportunities:&amp;nbsp; Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;LMO Dzemyan gave a very informative presentation on   land management in the elk range at the Wild about Elk Workshop that I   attended in 2010. In the future I hope to periodically delve into this a   bit more by covering more of the material that he dealt with that day   and also take us into the current Management Plan For Elk In   Pennsylvania.&amp;nbsp; I hope to use photos I have taken to illustrate some of   the management principles, that LMO Dzemyan discussed, and the plan sets   forth, to give readers a better understanding of the overall strategy   and methods which the PGC implements to maintain habitat in the elk   range.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-338188033187919034?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/338188033187919034/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/06/pennsylvania-elk-management-tourism-and.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/338188033187919034'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/338188033187919034'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/06/pennsylvania-elk-management-tourism-and.html' title='Pennsylvania Elk Management: Tourism and Hunting'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-goVdPpCgzEU/TgzH9HGnN1I/AAAAAAAACvw/ToKnQ6KDxaI/s72-c/_MG_7963+it+isnt+always+a+warden.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-2063629425608398882</id><published>2011-05-10T11:38:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-05-10T11:38:58.290-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management: Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>Early May Brings Mixed Feelings About PA Elk Herd</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-arvPw9ElwWE/TclA3c9VujI/AAAAAAAACsQ/eNIcG2tN8jA/s1600/_MG_4066+bennetts+branch.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-arvPw9ElwWE/TclA3c9VujI/AAAAAAAACsQ/eNIcG2tN8jA/s640/_MG_4066+bennetts+branch.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bennett's Branch Near Benezette&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Early May with its' superb scenery,&amp;nbsp; mild  temperatures, and abundant wildlife is a wonderful time to visit  Pennsylvania Elk Country.&amp;nbsp; The photo above was taken near the Benezett  river bridge early on the morning of May 5th, 2008 and I liked it so  much that I included video footage of this scene in "The Truth About  Pennsylvania's Elk Herd", the documentary film that was released that  September.&amp;nbsp; There is truly something special about a beautiful spring  morning spent afield whether it be in a turkey blind, hiking the  backcountry, or photographing scenery and big game.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For  me, the primary focus of an early May trip is to document the growth of  the bull's antlers and the 2008 trip yielded several excellent  encounters.&amp;nbsp; The best photo sessions with a large bull was when I found  the magnificent bull that many referred to as "Kisser" in the woods near  the Dent's Run Viewing Area.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-V1DZarvzL_8/TclG5leWrrI/AAAAAAAACsU/vXEcHTLAiVI/s1600/_MG_4212+4x5.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-V1DZarvzL_8/TclG5leWrrI/AAAAAAAACsU/vXEcHTLAiVI/s640/_MG_4212+4x5.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;"Kisser" or "Odie" Near Dents Run Viewing Area&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;This bull could usually be found somewhere between  Devil's Elbow and Benezette, but the area around Dents Run Viewing Area  seemed to be an especially favorite spot for him in May.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mnmqyM8jVmc/TclIchgqATI/AAAAAAAACsY/skqzLMfJv7E/s1600/_MG_4197+mature+bull+woods.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mnmqyM8jVmc/TclIchgqATI/AAAAAAAACsY/skqzLMfJv7E/s640/_MG_4197+mature+bull+woods.jpg" width="512" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;"Kisser" The Gentle Giant&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;It seems most Pennsylvania bulls are not as  aggressive as some of the western bulls such as Bull 6, which was a  famous character bull at Mammoth Hot Springs in Yellowstone Park.&amp;nbsp; That  bull was known for chasing people and attacking vehicles, but "Kisser"  was the exact opposite of this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NZ163tcVKrg/TclXCbLGBfI/AAAAAAAACsc/1pEr4T0NQaE/s1600/_MG_6565+bull+6+rangers+car.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NZ163tcVKrg/TclXCbLGBfI/AAAAAAAACsc/1pEr4T0NQaE/s640/_MG_6565+bull+6+rangers+car.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bull 6 Mammoth Hot Springs-Yellowstone National Park&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;Well known photographer and guide Phil Burkhouse  wrote an article "Fred Is Dead" in his "Wandering Aimlessly " column in  the Jan 19, 2011 issue of The Cameron County Echo, about "Bull 36" also  known as "Fred" shortly after he died last winter.&amp;nbsp; In this Mr Burkhouse  tells how that tourist flock to Winslow Hill to see elk and that Fred  was "the brightest star in the tourism trade and perhaps the most  valuable animal to local businesses in the state".&amp;nbsp; He goes on to say  that, "Fred was a first class citizen".&amp;nbsp; "Fred, huge beast that he was,  was always friendly and gentle.&amp;nbsp; Fred was undoubtedly the largest bull  elk in the herd for ten years running and did not have a mean bone in  this body."&amp;nbsp; While "Kisser" was overshadowed by Bull 36's reputation, he  was well know and was every bit as acclimated and harmless.&amp;nbsp; He was the  most likely "heir apparent" to Bull 36, but that was not to be as he  was killed in the 2010 elk hunt. I cannot comprehend why there cannot be  a sufficient no hunt zone,&amp;nbsp; that a few bulls can have a large enough  home range to reach maturity and live a normal life span. &amp;nbsp; I began  hunting at an early age and was as avid a hunter as any until 1997-98 so  I completely understand the pro-hunt point of view, but I cannot  comprehend how we can be so obsessed with the need to make&amp;nbsp; every "elk a  hunted elk", that we cannot allow anything special to exist such as a  few bulls like this.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apologists for the hunt as it is  currently implemented never tire of pointing out that elk were  re-introduced for hunting purposes and that the re-introduction was paid  for with hunting license dollars, therefore the herd should be managed  primarily for hunting purposes. At times lip service is given to the  concept of managing for tourism, but when the actual management  decisions are made, the elk and the non-consumptive user are usually the  losers.&amp;nbsp; Attaining the proper balance between hunting and tourism&amp;nbsp; is  the key, and the herd can be managed in such a way that it is a win, win  situation for both the tourist and hunting industries, but at this  point a win, win situation does not seem likely.&amp;nbsp; Instead what we are  doing is much like hunting elk in downtown Mammoth Hot Springs.&amp;nbsp; We are  killing our biggest, best and most visible elk and it is WRONG!!! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-2063629425608398882?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/2063629425608398882/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/05/early-may-brings-mixed-feelings-about.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/2063629425608398882'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/2063629425608398882'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/05/early-may-brings-mixed-feelings-about.html' title='Early May Brings Mixed Feelings About PA Elk Herd'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-arvPw9ElwWE/TclA3c9VujI/AAAAAAAACsQ/eNIcG2tN8jA/s72-c/_MG_4066+bennetts+branch.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-4822976753392749379</id><published>2011-04-20T13:38:00.006-04:00</published><updated>2011-04-20T14:32:58.953-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management: Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>Too Many Elk On Winslow Hill?</title><content type='html'>As we noted in the post of Thursday April 14, the Pennsylvania Game  Commission' drastically increased the elk license allocations for the  2011 season, for Hunt Zones 2 and 8, which are those that most directly  impact the viewing areas and center of elk related tourism on Winslow  Hill.&amp;nbsp; It is claimed that an increased kill is needed because this is  the largest sub-herd and has showed the most increase. To be quite frank  I have noticed the increased visibility of elk in this area in the  last&amp;nbsp; few years, but have been reluctant to comment about the situation  in the fear that it would help draw attention to what some are sure to  perceive as a problem.&amp;nbsp; While some may claim that this perceived problem  is a result of not killing enough elk, based on my years of  experience as a Game Lands Maintenance Worker and later Game Lands  Maintenance Supervisor with the PGC, I am reasonably certain that this  seemingly large increase in the herd on Winslow Hill has been caused by  the massive amounts of reclamation work that has been done in the area  during the past decade.&amp;nbsp; As a result, there are more high quality grasses  available as food for elk than ever before, which tends to draw elk  from surrounding areas and concentrate them in a relatively small area.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FMKHkvZSaXY/Ta8M0QN6GMI/AAAAAAAACrQ/juOu1U7rSac/s1600/CRW_5451+bull+35+chases+cow.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FMKHkvZSaXY/Ta8M0QN6GMI/AAAAAAAACrQ/juOu1U7rSac/s640/CRW_5451+bull+35+chases+cow.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bull Elk Follows Cow:&amp;nbsp; Reclaimed Area Of SGL 311: Grasses planted among cover crop of grain.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;Elk, like any other animal, gravitate  toward the best food sources and at this time a significant proportion  of this improved habitat is visible from the elk viewing area at Dewey  Road, which I persist in calling "The Gilbert Viewing Area".&amp;nbsp; This will  change in a short amount of time whether more hunting pressure is  directed at the area or not.&amp;nbsp; The reason for this change will be that  the quality of the grass will decline and then the elk will shift the  focus of their feeding to areas where the best food may be found.&amp;nbsp; The  only way that the large herd will remain concentrated&amp;nbsp; there is if a  significant portion of the grasslands is renewed periodically by  replanting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As an example, I recall that in late summer of 2006 the reclaimed  area between the Maynard Woodring property and Elk View Diner (this had  been an area of slag piles, etc. but was now a meadow) was covered with a  carpet of luscious grasses including different varieties of clovers and  trefoil and a large number of elk were attracted to the area.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-P-dCgSo5BxY/Ta8NomARvlI/AAAAAAAACrU/bDCjx_Iolfo/s1600/CRW_0838+clover.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-P-dCgSo5BxY/Ta8NomARvlI/AAAAAAAACrU/bDCjx_Iolfo/s640/CRW_0838+clover.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Area Near Elk View Diner Carpeted With Clover And Trefoil: Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This has remained a good spot to  see elk, but it was not used nearly as much last fall as in the period  from 2006-2009, and the reason is that the more desirable varieties of  grass were dying out, while freshly planted reclaimed areas near Dewey  Road, The Saddle, and at The Elk Country Visitor Center, attracted the  lions share of the elk.&amp;nbsp; The PGC has also traditionally planted at least  one food plot at the Dent's Run Viewing Area (the one with the  information center) and usually one or two at The Gilbert.&amp;nbsp; This has  served to keep elk coming to these areas in most years, but I do not  think it is sufficient to attract and hold the 150-200 animals that the  PGC says is in the area at present, so regardless as to whether or not  they shoot more elk on Winslow Hill, you likely won't see as many there  in the not too distant future, unless the PGC maintains an aggressive  planting program in the area.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BP4N9cqy5PM/Ta8WkSsgPzI/AAAAAAAACrc/Z9EuuRQ9sdo/s1600/_MG_5889+pgc+preps+food+plot.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BP4N9cqy5PM/Ta8WkSsgPzI/AAAAAAAACrc/Z9EuuRQ9sdo/s640/_MG_5889+pgc+preps+food+plot.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;PGC Prepares Food Plot For Planting At Gilbert Viewing Area&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Another example as to why this is likely  the case is the rut of 2007.&amp;nbsp; The PGC planted the usual food plots at  both the Gilbert and Dent's Run viewing areas, but The Rocky Mountain  Elk Foundation, which then owned the Elk Country Visitor Center  property, planted a lot of high quality forage in their food plots,  while there was an extremely large&amp;nbsp; newly reclaimed area on State Game  Lands 311, which was planted in fall grain and highly desirable  grasses.&amp;nbsp; This was located in the back country toward the mountains to  the West of Dewey Road.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-USvTJ8rx2wM/Ta8OOCEZ8iI/AAAAAAAACrY/DR8GaUBOEFA/s1600/CRW_5372+herd+ng.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-USvTJ8rx2wM/Ta8OOCEZ8iI/AAAAAAAACrY/DR8GaUBOEFA/s640/CRW_5372+herd+ng.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Remote  Reclaimed Area Of SGL 311: In 2007 this and plots at RMEF attracted  many elk usually seen At Gilbert and Dent's Run Viewing Areas &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;There were many times that there weren't  many elk to be seen in the usual viewing areas and some people who made  only a one day trip didn't see one bull.&amp;nbsp; There were a lot of complaints  that year that there were no elk on Winslow Hill, but the bottom line  was that most were at The Elk Foundation where the general public was  not permitted to be, or at the reclaimed area, which required a  substantial walk to access.&amp;nbsp; Most of the public didn't know how to find  it anyway, and it would likely have been perceived to be a problem had  they found out about it and arrived in large numbers to look for elk.&amp;nbsp; I  heard the person working at the information booth at the Dent's Run  viewing area that fall tell most of what I have just related to several  groups of people, as I was browsing the literature and displays in the  building.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The bottom line is that it seems likely that  this herd will disperse to a certain extent, if not a great deal, once  this bonanza of high quality food is gone.&amp;nbsp; In the meantime the PGC  has started down the slippery slope of increasing license allocations in  the area.&amp;nbsp; If they were concerned only about elk over-population as  they claim, why has pressure been substantially increased on the bulls  also?&amp;nbsp; I fully understand that many of the bulls that one sees on  Winslow Hill during the rut, come from other areas to Winslow Hill and  are in another area entirely when hunting season arrives, but with that  being said there were a substantial number of large bulls that did make  that general area their year around range and most of these animals have  been shot.&amp;nbsp; In some years, Pennsylvania has a 100% success rate on  bulls and it is seldom much less than that, so in effect this means it  is highly likely that eight more of the bulls that frequent the tourist  areas will be killed this fall.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From my point of view, it is amazing that we overshot the  whitetail buck population to the extent that the PGC enacted antler  restrictions to enable more bucks to live long enough to grow somewhat  better antlers, yet we seem hell bent on killing the exceptional bull  elk and making the same mistake with them that we did with the deer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the near future, I plan to further explore how and why we have arrived at this point in Pennsylvania Elk Management.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-4822976753392749379?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/4822976753392749379/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/04/too-many-elk-on-winslow-hill.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/4822976753392749379'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/4822976753392749379'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/04/too-many-elk-on-winslow-hill.html' title='Too Many Elk On Winslow Hill?'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FMKHkvZSaXY/Ta8M0QN6GMI/AAAAAAAACrQ/juOu1U7rSac/s72-c/CRW_5451+bull+35+chases+cow.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-7848442377766886782</id><published>2011-04-14T16:06:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2011-04-14T16:08:19.155-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management: Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>PGC Targets  Winslow Hill Elk Herd</title><content type='html'>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:&lt;br /&gt;April 12, 2011&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Release #045-11&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;GAME COMMISSIONERS ADOPT 2011-12 SEASONS AND BAG LIMITS&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;HARRISBURG  – The Pennsylvania Board of Game Commissioners today gave final  approval to hunting and trapping seasons and bag limits for 2011-12,  including big and small game seasons and furbearer seasons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  Board also adopted antlerless deer license allocations for the 22  Wildlife Management Units, and are listed in the article below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For  those unable to view the webcasts, a three-part “on-demand” video  recording of the staff reports from April 11 and today’s Board actions  can be viewed by going to/pennsylvaniagamecommission&lt;a href="http://www.livestream.com/pennsylvaniagamecommission"&gt;http://www.livestream.com/pennsylvaniagamecommission&lt;/a&gt; and clicking on the “April 2011 Board Meeting” icon.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  remainder of the News Release 045-11 gives a detailed summation of  seasons and bag limits, which may be read by clicking here:&lt;a href="http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=512&amp;amp;objID=12775&amp;amp;PageID=648010&amp;amp;mode=2&amp;amp;contentid=http://pubcontent.state.pa.us/publishedcontent/publish/marketingsites/game_commission/content/resources/newsreleases/newsrelease/articles/release__045_11.html"&gt; Release 045-11&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The  following is an article and commentary by me, describing the discussion  of the elk situation on the Webcast as I understood it.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9hDv556xCeg/TadOkA4P8CI/AAAAAAAACq8/yMi1OUMIDsg/s1600/_MG_1867+bull+cows+calves+zone+2.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9hDv556xCeg/TadOkA4P8CI/AAAAAAAACq8/yMi1OUMIDsg/s640/_MG_1867+bull+cows+calves+zone+2.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Winlsow Hill Herd To Be Targeted: Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;A very small portion  of the April 11th webcast concerns the Pennsylvania elk herd.  According  to Dr. Chris Rosenberry the elk herd is increasing overall, and is  stable in some areas, but the Winslow Hill herd is the largest sub-herd  and it has increased the most of any since last year.  As a result  the PGC has recommended that the harvest in Hunt Zone 2 be doubled from  last year's allocation.  This year 12 cows and 4 bulls, &lt;b&gt;YES FOUR&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;Bulls&lt;/b&gt;,  will be legal targets near the viewing areas on Winslow Hill. This of  course does not count the Governor's Conservation Tag bull, which of  course can be taken there also ,for a total of 5 &lt;b&gt;Yes Five &lt;/b&gt;possible  bulls killed in the center of elk related tourism.&amp;nbsp; It is unclear at this point  if this recommendation was finalized at this meeting.To underscore the  importance of the Pennsylvania Elk Herd to the PGC,&amp;nbsp; Rosenberry's elk  presentation was an astonishing 1 min. 35 seconds long, before he moved  on to the deer.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;If  approved,&amp;nbsp; this leads one to question just what level of commitment the  PGC does have to elk related tourism on Winslow Hill.&amp;nbsp; Why double the  number of bull permits in this area to control the population?&amp;nbsp; One can  be certain that it will not be raghorns that will be killed!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;Originally posted at Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer by Willard Hill&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-7848442377766886782?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/7848442377766886782/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/04/pgc-targets-winslow-hill-elk-herd.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/7848442377766886782'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/7848442377766886782'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/04/pgc-targets-winslow-hill-elk-herd.html' title='PGC Targets  Winslow Hill Elk Herd'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9hDv556xCeg/TadOkA4P8CI/AAAAAAAACq8/yMi1OUMIDsg/s72-c/_MG_1867+bull+cows+calves+zone+2.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-1624959955428150333</id><published>2011-03-19T12:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-03-19T12:08:06.453-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bull 36-Fred'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management: Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>Freddy Anecdote: Is Fred Really Dead? An Article by Carol Mulvihill</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TvRqY-_x1UY/TYTRyhT7rtI/AAAAAAAACpg/arR3BxbhiM4/s1600/CRW_7614+fred+bugles+facing-ff.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="464" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TvRqY-_x1UY/TYTRyhT7rtI/AAAAAAAACpg/arR3BxbhiM4/s640/CRW_7614+fred+bugles+facing-ff.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Fred In 2005:&lt;/span&gt; collar removed in Photoshop&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt; &lt;/table&gt;Carol Mulvihill, "The Elk Lady",&amp;nbsp; writes a column,  "Elk Watcher's Journal" for Endeavor News, and is&amp;nbsp; known and  respected for her fair and objective reporting on elk issues. She also  enjoys observing and photographing the elk., and like many,&amp;nbsp;  had a special interest in Bull 36, a.k.a. "Fred", "Freddy", or "Dogrope"  and has graciously agreed to share an article with us about him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Freddy anecdote: &lt;br /&gt;Is Fred really dead? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By Carol Mulvihill&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On  various occasions, during the past two years, the Pennsylvania Game  Commission has received calls from people thinking the free-ranging bull  elk nicknamed Freddy, Fred Junior, or Dog Rope, wearing Game Commission  research collar No. 36, was either dead or should be put down because  he looked decrepit and could hardly walk. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here are a couple of stories the Game Commission probably never heard. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Benezette  resident Ron Rishel tells about an incident that happened the summer  before last. He came upon Fred lying down like a dog with his neck flat  on the ground, with no noticeable movements to indicate breathing. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“I  hollered to him a couple of times and got no response,” Rishel said, “I  was sure he was dead so I walked up to him and, standing behind him, I  kicked him in his butt because I wanted to see how stiff he was. He  startled, picked his head up and swung it around, and scared me half to  death!” he chuckled.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I remember a scenario three years  ago, after the rut. Freddy was lying flat out in a field in the sun in  the late afternoon along Dewey Road, with one of his antlers resting  against the ground. He was with a group of about a dozen sleeping cows  and calves. I watched him for a full 10 minutes with binoculars and did  not see chest movements that would indicate breathing. I thought to  myself, if he dies of exhaustion after the rut, lying in a field with  his cows, it’s not a bad way for him to go.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After twenty minutes, other bystanders began asking, “Is that bull out there dead?”&lt;br /&gt;I  was seriously wondering if I was going to have to call the Game  Commission to haul him out. Then, I looked once more through a spotting  scope, and the big old bull elk moved his head slightly. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It  was déjà vu for me again this fall – I was not able to get a response  from the lying- down bull by calling to him at close range, and I saw no  signs of breathing or life whatsoever. I’ve been a nurse all my life,  so I knew what to look for.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With tears brimming in my  eyes, I walked to my car and was about to go to town to tell Ron Rishel  before calling the Game Commission. When I slammed my car door and  started the engine, the old bull picked his head up and looked at me. I  swear I heard someone whisper, “Gottcha!”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think  Freddy liked to play this trick on people, and especially enjoyed  hearing Rishel invoke the Lord’s name. This bull elk had a sense of  humor. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’ll treasure my memories of him forever.-Carol Mulvihill&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I  wish to thank Carol for sharing these stories with us and also take  this opportunity to relate a similar experience that I had back in  2001.&amp;nbsp; This was the same autumn that Fred spent a lot of time in the  saddle area and had the terrific battle with the Test Hill Bull, which I  filmed and is incorporated in the theater presentation at Elk Country  Visitor Center today.&amp;nbsp; When I arrived in the area one afternoon, I was  amazed to see him lying there as though he were dead, and I filmed him  with the Canon L2.&amp;nbsp; I had a 35mm camera with me, but for some reason got  no still shots of this incident, so the photos that are posted today  are still captures taken from the Hi-8 video tape.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OFZZbpDm6Mo/TYS-00wag-I/AAAAAAAACpQ/szye_0vGiXE/s1600/lying+down+xtra+wide.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="468" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OFZZbpDm6Mo/TYS-00wag-I/AAAAAAAACpQ/szye_0vGiXE/s640/lying+down+xtra+wide.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Fred With Harem:&lt;/span&gt; Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt; &lt;/table&gt;This was the year that the first modern day  Pennsylvania elk season was to be held in November and Fred was an  outstanding trophy class animal, but he was also completely acclimated  to humans and there is no way that shooting him could have been  classified as a fair chase hunt. It seemed very likely that he would be  shot, as the border with the hunt zone ran along the edge of the meadow,  and he spent a lot of time there and in the woods in the distance,  which were in the hunt zone.&amp;nbsp; At the time I couldn't help but wonder if  this was a harbinger of things to come, and that soon he would be lying  like this as someone's trophy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-s75NAfuQwD4/TYTQaAFLwKI/AAAAAAAACpc/Lw5a6Sdve1w/s1600/lying+down+cu.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="468" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-s75NAfuQwD4/TYTQaAFLwKI/AAAAAAAACpc/Lw5a6Sdve1w/s640/lying+down+cu.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Is He Dead Or Only Sleeping?&lt;/span&gt; Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt; &lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QQg1QVXFCck/TYTA8dqqG2I/AAAAAAAACpU/icNUbFm4QF0/s1600/lying+down+wide.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="468" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QQg1QVXFCck/TYTA8dqqG2I/AAAAAAAACpU/icNUbFm4QF0/s640/lying+down+wide.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Would He Be Lying Dead Before The Year Was Over?: &lt;/span&gt;Photo by W.hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt; &lt;/table&gt;Fortunately he did return to the No Hunt Zone before  season that year, and&amp;nbsp; remained there, in spite of a rumored plot to  drive him from the protected area and kill him. He went on to survive  over nine more years, and became the most famous bull elk in  Pennsylvania and perhaps the entire world.&amp;nbsp; Unless there is a drastic  change in our current elk management policies, there will never be  another like him and at this point that doesn't seem likely to happen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Be  sure to read Ms. Mulvihill's March 19, 2011 column in Endeavor  News,"PGC Roe not keen on expanding elk no-hunt zone", which details PGC  Executive Director, Carl Roe's reaction to the concept of expanding the  No Hunt Zone.&amp;nbsp; The article is available now to online or print edition  subscribers, and will be available online in its' entirety in two weeks  for non-subscribers.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-1624959955428150333?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/1624959955428150333/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/03/freddy-anecdote-is-fred-really-dead.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/1624959955428150333'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/1624959955428150333'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/03/freddy-anecdote-is-fred-really-dead.html' title='Freddy Anecdote: Is Fred Really Dead? An Article by Carol Mulvihill'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TvRqY-_x1UY/TYTRyhT7rtI/AAAAAAAACpg/arR3BxbhiM4/s72-c/CRW_7614+fred+bugles+facing-ff.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-484725886650888172</id><published>2011-01-25T12:51:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2011-01-25T12:55:29.731-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management: Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>Pennsylvania Elk And Anthropomorphism</title><content type='html'>Anthropomorphism! If one reads the outdoor press, it is not hard to  gather the  impression that it must be a very bad thing, but what  exactly is it?&amp;nbsp; It turns out that it is assigning human  or personal  characteristics to something that is not human. The most  common form of  anthropomorphism is the naming of animals.&amp;nbsp; Two events  that have  sparked recent discussions are the killing of "Bozo" the bear  in the  Poconos and the death of Bull 36, also commonly known as "Fred "  "Fred  Jr.", or "Freddy".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One argument against naming wild  animals advocates  that it is demeaning to a noble big game animal to  give it a human  name.&amp;nbsp; That may sound reasonable, but in many if not  most cases, the  same person who objects to naming, will have no problem  with seeing the  same animal fitted with a bright yellow numbered radio  collar and metal  ear tags and referring to them as Bull 36, 8A, etc.&amp;nbsp;  True they are not  assigning human attributes to the animal, but is this  not destroying the  wild, natural appearance of the animal&amp;nbsp; and  detracting from the  experience of interacting with it, whether it be by  observation,  photography, or hunting?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We will  concentrate on  Pennsylvania Elk in this discussion as certain  individual animals are  seen repeatedly by large numbers of humans,  which quite naturally leads  to naming the animal.&amp;nbsp; There really isn't a  lot of alternatives.  Describing a sighting of an animal with a  numbered collar is simple, but  in other cases it can get quite  complicated in a hurry.&amp;nbsp; Some animals  are also easily described by  certain physical characteristics such as  the bull that was known as  "Long Royal", because he had exceptionally  long royal points, which  made him instantly recognizable to the  experienced elk watcher, or  "Clubhorn" because of a deformed antler,  which was caused by a damaged  pedicel in his younger years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TTewJGM3aII/AAAAAAAACk4/VFrF6AwJwLE/s1600/CRW_1210+long+royal+in+saddle.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TTewJGM3aII/AAAAAAAACk4/VFrF6AwJwLE/s640/CRW_1210+long+royal+in+saddle.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"Long Royal": &lt;/span&gt;Named because of his unusually long royal points&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt; &lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TTes69sZQVI/AAAAAAAACk0/tMrkinMtAeI/s1600/CRW_7682+club+horn.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TTes69sZQVI/AAAAAAAACk0/tMrkinMtAeI/s640/CRW_7682+club+horn.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Club Horn In 2005: &lt;/span&gt;Instantly identifiable by his deformed left antler&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt; &lt;/table&gt;Others have been named for spots that  they frequent  during certain times of year, such as "The Test Hill  Bull", which  favored Test Hill as his range during the rut, but when we  get past  these options, there is not much left except to got into a  detailed  description of the animal, or to take the simple expedient of  giving it  a human name.&amp;nbsp; The following is an example:&amp;nbsp; "Say, did you see  that  big 7x7 that has them extra white flanks an one horn that kinda  comes  out to the side a bit further than the other, (I think it's on his   right side, jist wait till I see him again to be sure), and he walks   like he owns the whole hill."&amp;nbsp; Somebody else speaks up and says, "lets   make it simple, Bill took the first good picture I saw of him, so let's   call him "Bill"&amp;nbsp; So Bill it is and the name may stick or that group may   run into another group that has another name for the animal and decide   that they like it better, but in the end the animal has a name that   most&amp;nbsp; veteran elk enthusiasts recognize and use.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What   could be objectionable about this, other than prejudice against giving   wild animals human names ? The biggest problem for the hunting community   is that a large number of people have identified this animal and in   many cases feel a strong bond with it.&amp;nbsp; It is no longer just "another   elk", but it is "Fred", etc, and as such there is the potential for a   lot of strong feelings if the animal is killed or otherwise meets with   misfortune.&amp;nbsp; It is no secret that the PGC prefers that wildlife are not   named or singled out for attention, and that every elk or deer is just   another animal in the woods that no one is particularly concerned  about,  except when considering the welfare of the species as a whole.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This  may be a logical position, but is it realistic?&amp;nbsp; I recall  reading  several years ago, about a research project&amp;nbsp; that involved close contact  with whitetail deer by the researchers.&amp;nbsp; They were specifically  forbidden to name any of the animals, but ended up doing so in spite of  the written policy.  The researchers felt a great sense of loss when the  project ended, and  some agonized over how the animals would survive in  the future.&amp;nbsp; In the  case of Pennsylvania elk, some advocate  eliminating&amp;nbsp; close contact  between humans and elk as much as possible,  so that&amp;nbsp; naming and bonding  does not occur.&amp;nbsp; This may all be good and  well, but do we want our elk  watching experience to be limited to  sitting at areas like the Dent's  Run Viewing Area, and viewing elk so  far away in most cases that one  needs binoculars or spotting scopes to  see significant detail and even  the most powerful camera lenses are not  adequate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which is more beneficial to society as a  whole, a limited hunt  where only a few persons can participate each  year, or a viable elk  tourism industry, which has the potential to  provide a significant boost  to the area economy and could provide a  world class experience to  thousands upon thousands of people?&amp;nbsp;  Fortunately the powers that be need  not choose between one or the  other, but can improve the situation to a  great extent by increasing  the size of the No Hunt Zone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As the situation now  stands, it doesn't seem likely that another  bull will replace ""Freddy"  as the town icon anytime soon.&amp;nbsp; Some like to  think that he was so  cunning that he remained in the No Kill Zone to  purposefully evade  hunters, but it seems more likely that his physical  condition  contributed more to his survival than any awareness that he  was in  danger if he entered certain areas.&amp;nbsp; He still ventured into  the back  country in the Saddle area in 2001, and according to reports he  spent a  lot of time in Blue Sky Campground.&amp;nbsp; This was at the time of  the first  hunt, and there were rumors of plots to drive him from the No  Hunt  Zone into areas open to hunting, but this never happened.&amp;nbsp; Either  no  one attempted this strategy, or if they did they may have found it to   be impossible to drive an animal that was totally trusting of humans.&amp;nbsp; I   never saw him in the Saddle area again after 2001 and in fact did not   seem him during the rut of 2002 or 2003, if I remember correctly.&amp;nbsp; This   seems to be the period in which he started to spend much of his time  in  Benezette. I had only a limited amount of time to spend in elk  country during the rut, and he had already returned to the lawns in town  by the  time I arrived.&amp;nbsp; At that point I never drove through the part  of  Benezette that lies to the left of Winslow Hill Road as one is going  up  the hill.&amp;nbsp; I did find him on the Hill, during the rut, from 2004  on, and  while he still seemed to be healthy, he was likely feeling the  early  tinges of the arthritis that was to plague him in his later years  and was not traveling as far, and as I never saw him outside the No  Hunt Zone after 2001. &amp;nbsp; It  is entirely possible that the arthritis  actually enabled him to live a  longer life by confining his travels to  the No Hunt Zone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TT8Da5LabrI/AAAAAAAAClU/zSi4DykH1UU/s1600/_MG_3620+odie+yawns+devils+elbow.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TT8Da5LabrI/AAAAAAAAClU/zSi4DykH1UU/s640/_MG_3620+odie+yawns+devils+elbow.jpg" width="512" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;"Kisser" a.k.a. "Odie"-Freddy's Heir Apparent, Killed In 2010 Elk Season&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt; &lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;"Kisser", his heir apparent, was his  sidekick for  several years, but gravitated more and more toward the  Devil's Elbow  area as he reached maturity.&amp;nbsp; He usually could be found  somewhere from  the area of the Elk Country Visitor Center&amp;nbsp; to Devil's  Elbow during the  rut, and was often&amp;nbsp; found in the area of the P&amp;amp;N Coal  Company  building near the intersection of Winslow Hill Road and  Summersun  Road.&amp;nbsp; He began spending more time in the Devil's Elbow area  after the  rut, and during the winter and spring, rather than returning  to  Benezette, and that lead to his downfall during this year's elk  season.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TT8FUuvnRzI/AAAAAAAAClc/Bzs35pVY7ho/s1600/_MG_3615+odie+devils+elbow.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TT8FUuvnRzI/AAAAAAAAClc/Bzs35pVY7ho/s640/_MG_3615+odie+devils+elbow.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;"Kisser" -Devil's Elbow March 2010-A Fatal Attraction To Hunt Zone 2 Led To His Death&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt; &lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard C. Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-484725886650888172?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/484725886650888172/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/01/pennsylvania-elk-and-anthropomorphism.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/484725886650888172'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/484725886650888172'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/01/pennsylvania-elk-and-anthropomorphism.html' title='Pennsylvania Elk And Anthropomorphism'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TTewJGM3aII/AAAAAAAACk4/VFrF6AwJwLE/s72-c/CRW_1210+long+royal+in+saddle.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-6280124253177193590</id><published>2011-01-12T12:58:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2011-01-12T12:58:38.537-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bull 36-Fred'/><title type='text'>Ronald Saffer's Last  Portrait of Fred-Bull 36</title><content type='html'>After learning of Bull 36's death over the weekend, Ronald  "Buckwheat" Saffer, Pennsylvania's premier elk photographer, called to  discuss his death and his relationship with this animal over the years.&amp;nbsp;  He was one of Saffer's favorite subjects until later in his life, when  he began spending most of his time in Benezette and achieved lasting  fame as the Benezette town bull.&amp;nbsp; Buckwheat specializes in photographing  exceptional bulls in natural environments and after Fred moved to town  so as to speak, he did not encounter him nearly as often, although he  still photographed him if he found him on Winslow Hill in a natural  setting.&amp;nbsp; He has graciously agreed to share the last professional  portrait that he took of him during the rut this autumn.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TS3VXUCMohI/AAAAAAAACko/aq_r9Gof_vs/s1600/Saffer+Elk+34765+ed+Fred+20ll+dudleys+meadow.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TS3VXUCMohI/AAAAAAAACko/aq_r9Gof_vs/s640/Saffer+Elk+34765+ed+Fred+20ll+dudleys+meadow.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Bull 36 At Dudley Property-Along Winslow Hill Road: &lt;/span&gt;Photo courtesy of Ronald Saffer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Many were concerned that Fred would be shot during  the first few years of the hunt, as he was often found in Hunt Zone 2  during the rut and it seemed possible that he could linger too long in  that area and be caught by the opening of elk season.&amp;nbsp; Also there were  rumors of plots to drive him from the No Hunt Zone into the Hunt Zone,  but&amp;nbsp; that never happened.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some were still talking about shooting him as late as 2007, when he was featured on &lt;a href="http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2007/09/26/video-what-does-this-elk-score/"&gt;King's Outdoor World&lt;/a&gt;,  The article features two still pictures and a video clip titled  "What  Does This Elk Score?" The following is a quote from that page:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"This   bull is a herd bull that is a result of transplanted elk to  the east  to  help build up the herd years ago and therefore has a radio  collar  on  its neck as wildlife authorities keep a close eye on the  herd.  Don’t let  that make you think that it is a high fenced bull. This  is a  fair chase  bull that a lucky hunter could very well get this year   through their  lottery draw."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The video clip starts   with a shot of another bull and  then there is Fred chasing a cow. You   can hear someone say," I think I  could even hit him from here" Some one   else says ,"Oh I could probably  get one in him"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As  it turned out, no one "got one in him" and he lived a long life ,  bringing pleasure to thousands upon thousands of people. Sadly, unless  the current system changes, there is not likely to be another that can  survive to attain his status, as his most likely heir apparent was  killed during season this year, and it seems that most bulls are now  killed within a year or so of attaining trophy status.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/R1dpERcNJhI/AAAAAAAAAQU/bKT5uvb_K7M/s1600-h/CRW_7526+fred.jpg"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-6280124253177193590?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/6280124253177193590/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/01/ronald-saffers-last-portrait-of-fred.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6280124253177193590'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6280124253177193590'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/01/ronald-saffers-last-portrait-of-fred.html' title='Ronald Saffer&apos;s Last  Portrait of Fred-Bull 36'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TS3VXUCMohI/AAAAAAAACko/aq_r9Gof_vs/s72-c/Saffer+Elk+34765+ed+Fred+20ll+dudleys+meadow.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-694824196906591402</id><published>2011-01-10T11:01:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2011-01-10T11:01:44.099-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bull 36-Fred'/><title type='text'>Fred-Bull 36, Dies As Result Of Accident</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TSsoSDGSsLI/AAAAAAAACkk/4Y8txZJ2w_Y/s1600/dogrope+side+view+2002.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TSsoSDGSsLI/AAAAAAAACkk/4Y8txZJ2w_Y/s640/dogrope+side+view+2002.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fred In 2002-His Largest Classic Rack: &lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Courtesy of Ronald Saffer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Today  I am sorry to report that Bull 36, know to most as "Fred" or "Fred Jr."  had to be put down by PGC officials on Friday January, 7th, 2011, after  he fell down on the ice and was unable to regain his footing. The fall  causes a bone or bones to be broken and this along with his age and the  condition of the knee joints, made any chance of recovery impossible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reports  have been circulating all weekend on Facebook about this unfortunate  circumstance, but I have been hesitant to make a definitive post about  the matter until this point.&amp;nbsp; I wish to thank noted elk columnist for  Endeavor News, Carol Mulvihill, and Benezett Store Manager, Beth  Hoffman,&amp;nbsp; for confirming that initial reports are true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Estimates  of his age range as high as 20 years, but an analysis of his rack size  in in 1997, 1998 makes it seem likely he was born no later than 1994 and  it is possible he was born somewhat earlier, with 1992 being the  earliest likely year..&amp;nbsp; This was when Claude Nye, more commonly know as  "Dr. Perk" was heavily involved with the elk on Winslow Hill and he, Tom  Murphy, and Ron Rishel would be most likely to know the true age of the  animal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to Pennsylvania"s leading elk  photographer,&amp;nbsp; Ron "Buckwheat" Saffer, he first heard people using the  name "Fred, Jr". in 1998. That year, Saffer photographed him in  mid-August, with a dog leash tangled in his antlers and he and his  circle of friends name him "Dogrope", a name which he has used to this  day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TSsnvhwP6zI/AAAAAAAACkg/CS8FYFQFmkg/s1600/dogrope+8-13-98.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TSsnvhwP6zI/AAAAAAAACkg/CS8FYFQFmkg/s640/dogrope+8-13-98.jpg" width="512" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fred or Dogrope&amp;nbsp; In 1998 With Dog Leash In Antlers: &lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Courtesy Ronald Saffer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;I too did not hear the name, Fred Jr. until  1998, when it came into wide usage among the elk watchers and I  specifically recall Dr. Perk using that name.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Since I mostly shot  video during my early years in Elk County, I have no still images from  that period other than frame captures from video.&amp;nbsp; I am reasonably  certain that I did record Fred, Jr. in 1997 and have written about an  encounter with him in the saddle that year and used footage from this in  "The Truth About Pennsylvania's Elk Herd".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bull 36 is gone now, but he will be talked about for years to come.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Marci Geise has established a page on &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fred-Jr-36-A-Lasting-Tribute/192107727471783"&gt;Facebook &lt;/a&gt;as  a tribute to Fred, where persons may share photographs and stories of  their experiences with the Icon of Pennsylvania's elk herd.&amp;nbsp; If the link  doesn't work, do a search of Facebook for Fred Jr.#36&amp;nbsp; and you should  be able to find it.&amp;nbsp; Also visit Marci on Facebook at &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Elk-Scenic-Drive-Pennsylvania/177388822296040"&gt;Elk Scenic Drive&lt;/a&gt; for lots of elk photographs and discussions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted on &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-694824196906591402?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/694824196906591402/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/01/fred-bull-36-dies-as-result-of-accident.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/694824196906591402'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/694824196906591402'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2011/01/fred-bull-36-dies-as-result-of-accident.html' title='Fred-Bull 36, Dies As Result Of Accident'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TSsoSDGSsLI/AAAAAAAACkk/4Y8txZJ2w_Y/s72-c/dogrope+side+view+2002.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-1807746408667624252</id><published>2010-12-21T13:54:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-12-21T13:54:58.502-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Country Visitor Center'/><title type='text'>Update From Pennsylvania Elk Country-Visitor Center Hours</title><content type='html'>According to Paul Staniszewski, Monday December 20th was an overcast  day with steady snow in the Benezette area. He and Ron Saffer traveled  there that day to photograph elk and found that the large herd of more  than 120&amp;nbsp;cows and calves were still utilizing the Gilbert Viewing Area.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul  also says," after the hunt this year, several people mentioned to me  that the bull in the photo below, was one of the larger bulls that was  shot.... Well, this is a photograph that I took of him in town yesterday  and I'm happy to report that he is alive and well."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TRDwP4iRDQI/AAAAAAAACjs/gvdmC30Z5Ww/s1600/1319+attitutde.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TRDwP4iRDQI/AAAAAAAACjs/gvdmC30Z5Ww/s640/1319+attitutde.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Bull Resting In Benezette&lt;/span&gt;: Photo by Paul Staniszewski&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;We thank Paul&amp;nbsp; for sharing this photo with us.&amp;nbsp; They  also saw several more bulls and report that bull #36, "Fred" was spotted  on Gray Hill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;Paul also sent the 20011 schedule of  operation for the Visitors Center.&amp;nbsp; Please verify this information from  other sources before traveling to Benezette as changes could be made at  any time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Keystone Country Elk Alliance has announced the days and hours of operation of the Visitors Center for 2011 as follows:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;DAYS and HOURS for 2011:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;January – March: Saturday &amp;amp; Sunday Only | 9am – 5pm&lt;br /&gt;April – July: Thursday – Monday | 9am – 9pm&lt;br /&gt;August: Wednesday – Monday | 9am – 9pm&lt;br /&gt;September – October: 7 Days a Week | 8am – 8pm&lt;br /&gt;Grounds open Dawn til Dusk&lt;br /&gt;November – December: Thursday – Sunday | 9am – 5pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-1807746408667624252?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/1807746408667624252/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/12/update-from-pennsylvania-elk-country.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/1807746408667624252'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/1807746408667624252'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/12/update-from-pennsylvania-elk-country.html' title='Update From Pennsylvania Elk Country-Visitor Center Hours'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TRDwP4iRDQI/AAAAAAAACjs/gvdmC30Z5Ww/s72-c/1319+attitutde.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-6150286008259547025</id><published>2010-12-16T13:52:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-12-16T13:55:31.290-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Management: Tourism And Hunting'/><title type='text'>Controlling Pennsylvania's Elk Population-Is Shooting Necessary?</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TQpbj0MdGHI/AAAAAAAACjo/Wa8XJLtxNW0/s1600/_MG_1858+elk+and+humans.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TQpbj0MdGHI/AAAAAAAACjo/Wa8XJLtxNW0/s640/_MG_1858+elk+and+humans.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Elk In Hunt Zone 2-Day Before Elk Season:&lt;/span&gt; photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the most recent post,&lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/2010/12/are-pennsylvania-elk-as-wild-as-western.html"&gt; Pennsylvania Elk-As Wild As Any?&lt;/a&gt;, a reader raised an excellent question:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I   also own a family camp on Houston Hill, and we are privileged enough  to  have Elk come right into our backyard. Elk on our  mountain seem to  be a  little bit more skittish than the ones around  Winslow Hill, but  not by  much. I know that's a subjective comment, but  it's the only way  I know  to describe it. I agree that hunting these Tame  Elk is like  shooting  fish in a barrel, but how would you propose we  control the  Elk  Population if we do not hunt them? I would love to hear  your   ideas/proposals."&lt;br /&gt;Thanks,&lt;br /&gt;Curt&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I begin by   stating that I believe that the Pennsylvania elk herd is of more value   to society as an easily viewable natural resource than as the object of a   limited hunt in which only a small number of people will ever   participate.&amp;nbsp; With that being said though, there is room for both world   class tourism and a hunt to co-exist in Pennsylvania, but for this to   be, the herd needs to be managed in different ways in different areas.&amp;nbsp;   Hunting for the sake of hunting itself should be conducted&amp;nbsp; in areas   well away from&amp;nbsp; Winslow Hill,&amp;nbsp; but&amp;nbsp; it is uncertain as to&amp;nbsp; how wild elk   in these areas are also. For example I have heard from reliable sources   that they find the elk on Moore Hill to be as wild as whitetails in  many  cases, yet&amp;nbsp; certain stories of hunts in&amp;nbsp; the remote  areas raise a flag in my mind. One of these describes a  situation in the  Quehanna Wild Area in which a hunter fired a  "challenge shot"  at a bull  at short range (sounds like another word  for missed...in all of my  years of hunting I have not heard of firing a  shot to challenge an  animal, but such is the way the story goes ). The  party then followed  the animal's tracks to a nearby food plot where  the bull was feeding in  spite of being recently shot at, and the hunter  then killed the animal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But  I digress, let's assume  that elk in areas such as Quehanna, Moore  Hill,etc. are sufficiently  wild to justify calling shooting them  hunting, this does not excuse  trying to portray the elk on Gray Hill or  Winslow Hill as being "as  wild as any" and portraying shooting them as  being a challenging hunt,  yet, by looking at PGC harvest maps it is  obvious that most of the elk  killed since season resumed in 2001 have  been taken in the Winslow Hill  /Gray Hill areas, and the 555 corridor.&amp;nbsp;  With that being said,&amp;nbsp; there  are possibly times that elk in this area  would need to be shot to  control the population, but that should be  limited to antlerless elk  only, and it should be plainly stated up front  that this would not always be a fair  chase hunt, but rather the necessary removal  of surplus animals. The  animals would be just as dead, but at least we  would be honest about  the situation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TQpaL03MwLI/AAAAAAAACjk/kJuJ6M36Bto/s1600/2001-09+harvest+map+pgc+for+web.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="494" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TQpaL03MwLI/AAAAAAAACjk/kJuJ6M36Bto/s640/2001-09+harvest+map+pgc+for+web.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;2001-2009 Elk Harvest Map: Source-The Pennsylvania Game Commission&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the documentary  film, "The   Truth About Pennsylvania's Elk Herd", I advanced several ideas   designed  to give further protection to the large bulls that frequent  the  elk  viewing areas. These ideas should&amp;nbsp; result in less killing of  acclimated  elk as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One  possibility is to retain  the current  No Hunt Zone as an area where no  elk of either sex would  be killed,  with problem animals being relocated by trap and  transfer.  The No Hunt  Zone should possibly be expanded to protect the areas in   the Medix Run,  Benezette, Rt 555 Corridor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S7TUAMPbD-I/AAAAAAAACU4/gIzeyuGg1hE/s1600-h/alternate+no+hunt+zone+8-10-08.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S7TUAMPbD-I/AAAAAAAACU4/gIzeyuGg1hE/s640/alternate+no+hunt+zone+8-10-08.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Alternate   No Hunt-Population Control Only Hunt Zones From "The Truth About   Pennsylvania's Elk Herd"-map is approximation only not accurate in fine   detail.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second would be a substantial  zone around   this area which would be a population control only hunt.  There would   be no bull tags issued for this area and only enough  antlerless tags  to  contain the population at an acceptable level. It  would not be   portrayed as a challenging hunt, but rather as a  population control   tool, held only when strictly needed and not utilized  as an excuse to   conduct a yearly hunt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At this point it is not clear   that we are at the place where we need to control the size of the   Winslow Hill sub-herd by shooting.&amp;nbsp; According to The Management Plan For   Elk In Pennsylvania 2006-20016,( In the following quote, BCC means   biological carrying capacity or the amount of elk the habitat will   support and SCC means social carrying capacity or what society will   tolerate) " The BCC for elk in Pennsylvania is unknown, but there is no   indication that the population is reaching it. None of the studied   indications mentioned above have been observed. In fact, elk appear to   be reproducing and reaching weights above what is expected and survival   rates are normal to high. The SCC is also unknown at this time.  However,  indications are that number hasn't been reached either. Most  interested  parties haven't complained of too many elk and would  actually like to  see more. As we gather more information, we will  balance the numbers so  that we do not go over the BCC but still  maintain an elk population that  provides enjoyment for the people of  the Commonwealth.(written by elk  biologist Jon Marc DiBerti)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-6150286008259547025?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/6150286008259547025/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/12/controlling-pennsylvanias-elk.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6150286008259547025'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6150286008259547025'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/12/controlling-pennsylvanias-elk.html' title='Controlling Pennsylvania&apos;s Elk Population-Is Shooting Necessary?'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TQpbj0MdGHI/AAAAAAAACjo/Wa8XJLtxNW0/s72-c/_MG_1858+elk+and+humans.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-4430742837520211060</id><published>2010-12-09T19:40:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-12-09T19:48:46.570-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>Pennsylvania Elk-As Wild As Any?</title><content type='html'>Today we explore another segment of Ms. Becky Polaski,St Marys Daily  Press reporter's interview with Tony Ross, Regional Wildlife Biologist  for the PGC in the Northcentral Region, &lt;a href="http://www.smdailypress.com/content/range-area-elk-herd-expanding"&gt;"Range of area elk herd expanding"&lt;/a&gt;, which was published on November 5, 2010.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In  the post of Thursday November 18th, we proved that tame elk are in fact  hunted and shot quite near one of the most popular public viewing areas  on Winslow Hill&amp;nbsp; in spite&amp;nbsp; of Mr. Ross's claim in the article that the  elk in the area immediately around Benezette and Winslow Hill are  protected from hunting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TQFwHHbfwyI/AAAAAAAACjc/_BrGtwboRzs/s1600/_MG_1747+humans+hunt+zone+2+elk.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TQFwHHbfwyI/AAAAAAAACjc/_BrGtwboRzs/s640/_MG_1747+humans+hunt+zone+2+elk.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Elk In Hunt Zone 2 Winslow Hill-Saturday Before Elk Season 2010&lt;/span&gt;: photo by w.hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;Mr. Ross tries to make the point that the behavior  of the elk that one sees in Benezette and on Winslow Hill is not  representative of Pennsylvania elk in general, but then he goes on to  make some extremely interesting observations. At one point in the  interview, Mr. Ross remarks "while elk and deer may be similar in  appearance,  their behaviors toward people, while cautious, are  completely different.""An  elk by itself is a big animal. It's not going  to act just like a deer  because as soon as a deer sees you, it can  move because it's so quick  and so small. An elk, they've got to stand  there and they will still  turn, but they don't have that ability to run  away as fast as a deer,"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is in direct  contradiction to the experiences of prominent firearms manufacturer and  seasoned hunter, James F. Borden. In a letter to Ms. Polaski following  the publication of her article, Mr. Borden states:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I  am a seasoned outdoorsman that goes beyond parking lots and the edge  of  the road--I have spent much time in the "bush" of Alaska as well as   the Western States hunting as well as doing wildlife photography. &amp;nbsp;I   have hunted many species in the USA and Canada from prairie dogs to   grizzly bear. &amp;nbsp;I have hunted elk in Montana and Idaho. &amp;nbsp;You will not   find the behavior of those elk to be anything like the Pa Elk herd   behavior. &amp;nbsp; I know animals and know their habits very well. &amp;nbsp;What was   described to you about an elk being large and can not turn and run like a   deer was passed along to you by an individual that does not know and   understand elk behavior or does not want the truth known. &amp;nbsp;I advise you   to go into the woods of Montana, Colorado or Idaho and try to walk up  on  elk --you will find that they spook easier than deer and flee hard  and  fast. &amp;nbsp;If you do your research you will find that the western  states  that have truly wild elk do not have 100% bull hunt success-it  runs  closer to 15 to 17%."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Earlier in his letter, Mr. Borden makes some interesting observations about the behavior of the Pennsylvania elk herd;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I  have visited Benezett as recent as the weekend prior to the opening of   the elk season and there were in excess of 150 animals on Winslow hill   in the hunt zone 2 and I could walk among them and walk within 15 yards   of the big bulls. &amp;nbsp;These animals are highly accustomed to humans--the   same day there were in excess of 125 elk in the town of Benezett across   the bridge near the old train station-so that totals over 275 Elk out  of  a herd of 700 to 800--so I saw 25% of the entire Pa elk herd that  day  and none of the animals were the least bit skittish or afraid. &amp;nbsp;I  have  observed elk up the Sinnemahoning and found them to behave in the  same  manner."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TQFw6PLGuKI/AAAAAAAACjg/DrasqSys8Bg/s1600/_MG_1909+acclimated+herd.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TQFw6PLGuKI/AAAAAAAACjg/DrasqSys8Bg/s640/_MG_1909+acclimated+herd.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Herd In Hunt Zone 2-Winslow Hill Sunday Morning Before Season:&lt;/span&gt; photo by w.hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can personally attest that what Mr.  Borden said about the Winslow Hill herd is true as I had extensive  experience with these animals during the same time period.&amp;nbsp; Some would  seek to remedy the situation by making the herd on Winslow Hill "truly  wild", but this may or may not be possible to do, and attempting to do  so would destroy the elk viewing experience.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Visit Jim Borden's blog,&lt;a href="http://jandj-b-wildlifephotography.blogspot.com/"&gt; JJ Widlife Photography &lt;/a&gt;for an excellent article ,&lt;a href="http://jandj-b-wildlifephotography.blogspot.com/2010/11/pa-elk-in-fall.html"&gt;PA Elk In Fall&lt;/a&gt;, describing his experience with the elk during the weekend before elk season.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Excerpts from letter to Ms. Polaski reprinted by permission of James F. Borden.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; by Willard Hill.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-4430742837520211060?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/4430742837520211060/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/12/are-pennsylvania-elk-as-wild-as-western.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/4430742837520211060'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/4430742837520211060'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/12/are-pennsylvania-elk-as-wild-as-western.html' title='Pennsylvania Elk-As Wild As Any?'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TQFwHHbfwyI/AAAAAAAACjc/_BrGtwboRzs/s72-c/_MG_1747+humans+hunt+zone+2+elk.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-5978213144902259593</id><published>2010-12-02T20:05:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-12-02T20:14:01.606-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>More Thoughts On "Kissser" aka "Odie":</title><content type='html'>Regular readers of this blog know that one of Pennsylvania's few  surviving character bulls known as "Kisser" or "Odie" was killed during  the past elk season.&amp;nbsp; I first filmed and photographed this bull in  Benezette during the summer of 2007 when he was already a beautiful 7x7.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TPgyJzE3A3I/AAAAAAAACjU/xKcO9p_GUW4/s1600/CRW_4162+odie+july+07.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TPgyJzE3A3I/AAAAAAAACjU/xKcO9p_GUW4/s640/CRW_4162+odie+july+07.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;"Kisser" aka "Odie" in Benezette: July 2007&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;While most referred to him as "Kisser", our close  circle of photographers and elk watchers named him "Odie" There is of  course a story behind this.&amp;nbsp; Ron "Buckwheat" Saffer and Odie Swartz were  photographing this bull and several other elk during the rut of 2007  when he had a fight with another bull and broke one of his tines.&amp;nbsp; Odie  Swartz found the tine and from then on Buckwheat referred to the bull as  "Odie's Bull".&amp;nbsp; In time we simply referred to him as "Odie"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TPg0BxhjGpI/AAAAAAAACjY/dKWkZFEiPM4/s1600/CRW_5504+odie+in+woods+2007.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TPg0BxhjGpI/AAAAAAAACjY/dKWkZFEiPM4/s640/CRW_5504+odie+in+woods+2007.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;"Odie"In Woodlands On Winslow Hill Rut of 2007: Note Missing Tine On Left Antler&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;By 2010 most of the character bulls were gone.&amp;nbsp; The  famous town bull "Fred" was in declining health, and most of the others  had been poached (Club Horn 2005), killed in elk season, or died of  natural causes. "Kisser" was positioned to replace Fred (bull #36) as  the most observed and photographed Pennsylvania bull elk, but this was  not to be. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the Saturday November 27, 2010 edition of&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.endeavornews.com/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Endeavor News&lt;/i&gt;,&lt;/a&gt; Carol Mulvihill features this bull in her&amp;nbsp; "Elk Watcher's Journal "column&amp;nbsp; - &lt;a href="http://www.endeavornews.com/news/2010-11-27/Outdoors/Remembering_bull_elk_Kisser.html"&gt;"Remembering bull elk "Kisser"&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;  The story covers the life history of the animal, especially the early  years and reveals that he was named by a local resident and elk guide  when the young bull walked up to his house in 2005 and touched noses  with a puppy dog standing on the porch.&amp;nbsp; A photograph of this encounter  is featured on the front page of the print edition of the paper.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;The  story in its' entirety is available initially only to subscribers, but  is available to the general public after three weeks.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;nbsp; recommend that  those who are seriously interested in the elk herd and issues impacting  the elk range such as Marcellus shale drilling subscribe to this paper.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For more on this animal read "&lt;a href="http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/03/gentle-giant.html"&gt;A Gentle Giant" by Coy Hill&lt;/a&gt; ( March 11, 2010). The story of this animal is yet one more reason why we need an expanded No Kill Zone!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/2010/12/more-thoughts-on-kissser-aka-odie.html"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-5978213144902259593?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/5978213144902259593/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/12/more-thoughts-on-kissser-aka-odie.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/5978213144902259593'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/5978213144902259593'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/12/more-thoughts-on-kissser-aka-odie.html' title='More Thoughts On &quot;Kissser&quot; aka &quot;Odie&quot;:'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TPgyJzE3A3I/AAAAAAAACjU/xKcO9p_GUW4/s72-c/CRW_4162+odie+july+07.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-6568728346418823859</id><published>2010-11-23T12:28:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-11-23T12:28:33.805-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Marcellus Shale'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Management: Tourism And Hunting'/><title type='text'>News From Pennsylvania Elk Country: A Report From Paul Staniszewski</title><content type='html'>Today, I received a very informative e-mail from Paul Staniszewski  that covers some important developments in Pennsylvania elk country and  will be the basis for most of today's post.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There was  much speculation that the bull known as "Attitude" among our circle of  photographers was among the bulls that were shot this past hunting  season, but Paul reports that he and Ron "Buckwheat" Saffer did see this  bull and seven cows across from Benezett store. They also saw four  other large bulls, which included the famous Benezette town bull "Fred",  aka "Dog Rope", aka "Bull No. 36". This is welcome news when two of the  most famous character bulls "Odie" aka "Kisser" and "Crazy Legs Jr."  were killed during the past elk season, along with the large 7x7 that  thrilled thousands of visitors to the Elk Country Visitor Center.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;﻿ &lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOvr7OzGfyI/AAAAAAAACi8/4pv8I4_09QU/s1600/_MG_0830+7x7+bull+and+odie.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOvr7OzGfyI/AAAAAAAACi8/4pv8I4_09QU/s640/_MG_0830+7x7+bull+and+odie.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Two Of The Major Attractions At Elk Country Visitor Center, Killed In Elk Season: &lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Photo by W.Hill&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;﻿ In addition, Paul reports:&lt;br /&gt;"In traveling down  Dewey Road we were surprised to see that the barn and garage at the  Gilbert Farm were gone.... I was glad to see that theywere not simply  burned down, but dismantled with the barn siding and foundation stones  salvaged.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOvslUQ4glI/AAAAAAAACjA/J1cOz5Ra0JY/s1600/_MG_0899+gilbert+barn.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOvslUQ4glI/AAAAAAAACjA/J1cOz5Ra0JY/s640/_MG_0899+gilbert+barn.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Kenny Gilbert Barn:&lt;/span&gt; Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOvsmcW7tsI/AAAAAAAACjE/VNzokFiOgys/s1600/_MG_0900+storage+shed+at+gilbert.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOvsmcW7tsI/AAAAAAAACjE/VNzokFiOgys/s640/_MG_0900+storage+shed+at+gilbert.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Shed At Gilbert: &lt;/span&gt;Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Further down across the road from the "Stink Ponds" we observed at least 75 cows feeding in the field.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;﻿ &lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOvzyLK7NyI/AAAAAAAACjM/C3wm5G8FM2w/s1600/_MG_2040+elk+at+stink+ponds.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOvzyLK7NyI/AAAAAAAACjM/C3wm5G8FM2w/s640/_MG_2040+elk+at+stink+ponds.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Elk At Ponds Near Gilbert Buildings:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt; Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;﻿ &amp;nbsp;In our discussions with local residents, all of  the talk was about the all the Marcellus Gas Well leases being signed  and a lot of money changing hands.I am very concerned about how all the  drilling being planned in the area will impact the elk herd and how the  hundreds of thousands of visitors and gas well activity (including  traffic) will coexist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOvtN8CAAHI/AAAAAAAACjI/ArlPxpedUSM/s1600/_MG_0069+marcellus+shale+gilbert.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOvtN8CAAHI/AAAAAAAACjI/ArlPxpedUSM/s640/_MG_0069+marcellus+shale+gilbert.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Marcellus Sale Related Work-Porcupine&amp;nbsp;Run-Winslow Hill Viewing Area:&lt;/span&gt; Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;Editor's Note:&lt;br /&gt;According to other information  that I have received, it seems that the gas and oil rights on at least a  portion of the public lands on Winslow Hill are still owned by previous  owners or their families. This includes the land where the Elk Country  Visitor Center is located. A local resident told me on the day that the  above photo was taken that a gas well is to be located there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now more from Paul Staniszewski:&lt;br /&gt;"We  stopped in the Elk Country Visitors Center and the staff reported that  the previous day (Sunday) was just as busy as it was during the rut in  October. The traffic to the center has far exceeded everyone's  expectations. I look at this as being very positive because more and  more people are being educated as to the value of the elk herd as a  asset to be viewed and appreciated by many tourists rather than a  handful of hunters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the way home, we stopped in  Hollywood and spoke to Larry Alexander,an environmental engineer from  DEP, and he gave us a tour of the abandoned mine drainage reclamation  project that is currently underway. This project is very important  because these are the headwaters of the Bennetts Branch that runs  through Benezette. Larry previously worked out of the trailer that was  parked on the Gilbert Farm for 8 years while he supervised the building  of the 2 silos, the construction of the "Stink Ponds", and all the other  activity related to cleaning up Dents Run. He told us that presently  the lower reaches of Dents Run are now able to sustain aquatic insect  life and will be stocked with trout. I never thought that I would see  that happened in my&lt;br /&gt;lifetime."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A special thanks to Paul for another informative report.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-6568728346418823859?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/6568728346418823859/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/11/news-from-pennsylvania-elk-country.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6568728346418823859'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6568728346418823859'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/11/news-from-pennsylvania-elk-country.html' title='News From Pennsylvania Elk Country: A Report From Paul Staniszewski'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOvr7OzGfyI/AAAAAAAACi8/4pv8I4_09QU/s72-c/_MG_0830+7x7+bull+and+odie.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-164074416642980211</id><published>2010-11-18T12:17:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-11-18T12:18:43.887-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>They Don't Shoot Tame Elk In Pennsylvania-Or Do They?</title><content type='html'>I had really wanted to avoid this subject but then I happened to read an article,"&lt;a href="http://www.smdailypress.com/content/range-area-elk-herd-expanding"&gt;Range of area elk herd expanding".&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; This was published in the Nov.5, 2010 edition of the Daily Press a newspaper from St. Marys, Pennsylvania and was written by Becky Polaski.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; The article is constructed around an interview with Tony Ross, the Regional Wildlife Biologist for the PGC in the Northcentral Region.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have reason to believe that I met Ms. Polaski that day as I was at the elk check station late in the morning of November 3, 2010 when I overheard a young lady introduce herself to a hunter as a reporter from a St Marys newspaper.&amp;nbsp; Soon we were engaged in conversation and she told me she had heard reports about tame elk being shot in the hunt and she wanted to interview a PGC official so that the record could be set straight about this subject.&amp;nbsp; As she was leaving the check station, she told me she had interviewed Tony Ross about this subject and felt that he gave a fair presentation of both sides of the controversy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the interview, Ross explains about the No Hunt Zone and claims that this gives sufficient protection to the elk that are completely acclimated to humans as these animals remain in the No Hunt Zone and do not go into areas where hunting is permitted. He goes on to point out that people see how these elk behave and then wrongly assume that all elk in Pennsylvania are as tame as The Winslow Hill herd. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today we will focus on one particular incident, which occurred at the Porcupine Run-Winslow Hill Viewing Area (The Gilbert) on Dewey road, which proves beyond any doubt that the acclimated animals that frequent the viewing areas on Winslow Hill are subject to hunting at times. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most visitors to Pennsylvania elk country do not realize that the Hunt Zone begins just beyond the double gates at the PGC parking lot at the end of Dewey Road. If one walks through the gate to the left and follows the road to Benezette, the area to the left of the road is No Hunt Zone, while the area to the right is Hunt Zone (check the PGC Hunting and Trapping Digest for a more detailed description of Zone boundaries) . This is the hillside that is plainly visible from Winslow Hill Road.&amp;nbsp; This year a tremendous herd of elk (well over 100 animals at times) utilized this area and passed freely between the Hunt and No Hunt Zones.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dawn of November 1, 2010, the first day of elk season, came in cold and frosty. At first nothing could be seen but the piercing bugles of bulls rent the air signifying that elk were present. Soon a hunting party became visible on the crest of the hillside. This is the area that long time elk watchers refer to as "The Saddle".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOVK2QR0QnI/AAAAAAAACiI/W95UyRriULY/s1600/hunting+party+7-22.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOVK2QR0QnI/AAAAAAAACiI/W95UyRriULY/s640/hunting+party+7-22.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Hunting Party In Saddle At Dawn&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Simultaneously, one was able to make out the forms of a large herd of elk spread out along the hillside below and in front of the hunting party.&amp;nbsp; Legal shooting hours were at 7:10 a.m., but it was still very dark at that time. At about 7:25 a person dropped into shooting position and fired one shot at about 7:30.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOVNK_ggItI/AAAAAAAACiM/Ffk8fim9nlk/s1600/shooting+7-25.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOVNK_ggItI/AAAAAAAACiM/Ffk8fim9nlk/s640/shooting+7-25.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Hunter Prepares To Shoot&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;The elk did not show any significant reaction to the shot.&amp;nbsp; A still capture from video taken of the herd within a minute of the shot being fired shows that some of the animals have their heads lifted, but they do not look alarmed, while others continue to graze.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOVOKRQIqxI/AAAAAAAACiQ/K4O0PtNhImU/s1600/herd+after+shot+2+7-31.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="360" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOVOKRQIqxI/AAAAAAAACiQ/K4O0PtNhImU/s640/herd+after+shot+2+7-31.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Elk Herd Moments After An Elk Was Killed In Their Midst&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOVPIO_vwyI/AAAAAAAACiU/RJ8xRy8N8CA/s1600/herd+scene+of+kill+7-45.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="360" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOVPIO_vwyI/AAAAAAAACiU/RJ8xRy8N8CA/s640/herd+scene+of+kill+7-45.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Still Grazing Peacefully at 7:47&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;About 7:50, a full twenty minutes after the shot was fired, elk began moving toward the No Hunt Zone.&amp;nbsp; At this time the hunting party stood up and two of them walked down the hill to the kill.&amp;nbsp; As they did this the herd grouped and ran into the No Hunt Zone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOVPh14IO7I/AAAAAAAACiY/zdPmQyLSgLI/s1600/herd+starts+for+no+hunt+zone+7-50.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="360" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOVPh14IO7I/AAAAAAAACiY/zdPmQyLSgLI/s640/herd+starts+for+no+hunt+zone+7-50.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Elk Move Into No Hunt Zone&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;An observer told me later that someone was hunting with a bow and while they could see several elk, none came within range until the hunters came down the hill.&amp;nbsp; At that point elk did come within range and the archer killed an antlerless elk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Soon all of the elk were in the No Hunt Zone and I saw no more elk on the hillside that was open to hunting from then until the time I left elk country on Thursday morning of that week.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The photo below shows the area that was filled with elk at dawn.The pile of entrails are near to where the animal fell. &amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOVUbSsuzPI/AAAAAAAACig/oVxR-KxaPn0/s1600/_MG_2020+area+of+kill+titled.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOVUbSsuzPI/AAAAAAAACig/oVxR-KxaPn0/s640/_MG_2020+area+of+kill+titled.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Area Of Kill From Hunters Point Of View&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;I must emphasize that this was a a legal hunt, conducted in an area open to public hunting, and it is not my intention to criticize the actions of the hunters, but rather to bring attention to a flawed policy that permits hunting in this area.&amp;nbsp; I and several others have repeatedly made the case for a larger no hunt zone and this is a prime example as to why this should be done.&amp;nbsp; In fact this area was NOT in the Hunt Zone during the first few modern day elk hunts, but was included in the Hunt Zone in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There were 2 bull tags, and six antlerless tags issued for Hunt Zone 2 and it is possible that more of these hunters could have tried to kill elk in this herd.&amp;nbsp; There were several people along Winslow Hill and Dewey Road observing the hunt and the potential existed for a public relations nightmare had several tag holders co-operated and fired a volley into the herd of acclimated elk. A well known elk guide later commented on the situation and said that he was hoping that the herd moved out of this area before opening day as "we didn't need a massacre". Now seems like a good time to remove the legal basis for such a potential disaster by removing this area from Hunt Zone 2 and making it part of the No Kill Zone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope to explore this article in more depth and the situation concerning Hunt Zone 2 and the No Hunt Zone in a series of posts in the very near future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill.&amp;nbsp; All photos by W.Hill.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-164074416642980211?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/164074416642980211/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/11/they-dont-shoot-tame-elk-in.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/164074416642980211'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/164074416642980211'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/11/they-dont-shoot-tame-elk-in.html' title='They Don&apos;t Shoot Tame Elk In Pennsylvania-Or Do They?'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TOVK2QR0QnI/AAAAAAAACiI/W95UyRriULY/s72-c/hunting+party+7-22.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-2988932749473060433</id><published>2010-11-13T19:11:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-11-13T19:11:24.362-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Management'/><title type='text'>E-Mail From Paul Staniszweski: Change In Visitor Center Operation Schedule</title><content type='html'>The following is a letter to the editor so as to speak, which was  sent in the form of an e-mail.&amp;nbsp; This is from Paul Staniszweski, a  retired educator who is currently a Pennsylvania Wild Juried Artist and a  volunteer at the Elk Country Visitor Center.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Willard, I  would like to comment on your blog: First of all, I would like to go  back to October and the dedication of the Elk Country Visitors  Center.... At that time, I mentioned that there was a noticeable absence  of any representation from the PA Game Commission... Everyone that I  talked to said that the reason was that there is an ongoing conflict  between the Game Commission and the management of the Keystone Country  Elk Alliance.... In my opinion, I think that more is involved. I feel  that the vast majority of attendees to the "grand opening" were against  the elk hunt and the Game Commission didn't want to have to answer  questions about the hunt being unethical and giving new meaning to the  word "sportsmanship". In truth, I believe the the PGC is embarrassed  about the hunt and they know that it is a joke.... And the PGC knows  that this hunt amounts to "shooting fish in a barrel".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TN8njJir7BI/AAAAAAAACiE/mhg-bW1mWUc/s1600/0967.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TN8njJir7BI/AAAAAAAACiE/mhg-bW1mWUc/s640/0967.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Acclimated Bulls Sparring On Winslow Hill:&lt;/span&gt; Photo by Paul Staniszewski&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The following are concerns I have about the hunt:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The elk hunt should NOT be promoted as a trophy event.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The "no hunt zone" needs to be extended to include Winslow Hill (I  Understand that bugling was going on there throughout the hunt).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The elk hunt does not need to be an annual event, but conducted on a "need to have" basis.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Willard, again, these are only my thoughts and now I will get off my soapbox... Sorry for the long post...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul also informs us that the days and hours of operation of the Visitor Center have changed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The  management of the visitors center has announced a change in their hours  and days of operation for the upcoming months as follows: For November  and December, it will be closed on Tuesdays and Wednesdays and for the  open days, the hours will be 9:00 AM til 5:00 PM.... And for January,  February, March,&lt;br /&gt;and April it will be open on Saturdays and Sundays only from 9:00 AM til 5:00 PM."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-2988932749473060433?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/2988932749473060433/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/11/e-mail-from-paul-staniszweski-change-in.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/2988932749473060433'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/2988932749473060433'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/11/e-mail-from-paul-staniszweski-change-in.html' title='E-Mail From Paul Staniszweski: Change In Visitor Center Operation Schedule'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TN8njJir7BI/AAAAAAAACiE/mhg-bW1mWUc/s72-c/0967.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-6857196959899791654</id><published>2010-11-11T11:25:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-11-11T11:25:46.359-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Management'/><title type='text'>PGC Releases Elk Hunt Results:  100% Success Rate On Bull Elk</title><content type='html'>While many claim that Pennsyilvania Elk are as wild as any and that the hunt  is fair chase, we once again find that bull hunters were extremely successful.&amp;nbsp;  In fact this year's success rate was 100% and last year only one bull tag was  not filled.&amp;nbsp;The success ratio on antlerless elk is always somewhat less.&amp;nbsp; It  seems likely this is because a cow hunter is not as likely to hire&amp;nbsp;a guide and  is more likely to give up if they are not sucessful within the first few days of  the season. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;﻿﻿ &lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt; &lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TNwWFgKbj4I/AAAAAAAACiA/yUO88dIT-_o/s1600/_MG_2401+odie++8x10.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TNwWFgKbj4I/AAAAAAAACiA/yUO88dIT-_o/s640/_MG_2401+odie++8x10.jpg" width="512" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt; &lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Acclimated Elk Near Boundary Of Hunt Zone 2:  Photographed in 2008&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;﻿﻿We stand by our position that there needs to be a larger No Kill zone to  afford&amp;nbsp; protection to more of the acclimated bulls that frequent the viewing  areas.&amp;nbsp; While many bulls travel long distances to Winslow Hill during the rut,  several do remain in the area and these have been hit hard since elk season  resumed in 2001.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On a postitive note the Pennsylvania Game Commission must be commended for  eliminating the combined hunt zones on Winslow Hill in 2009 and allowing only  hunters with zone 2 tags to hunt in zone 2.&amp;nbsp; (For a period zones 1,2,3,10 were  combined which allowed a hunter with a valid tag for any of these areas to hunt  wherever they chose within those 4 zones. This gave the potential for an extreme  amount of hunting pressure to be directed at the elk in Zone 2, near the viewing  areas on Winslow Hill. This year 2 bull&amp;nbsp; and 6 cow tags were issued for Zone  2.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reprinted below&amp;nbsp;is the official PGC news realease for the elk season which  ran from Monday Nov.1 through&amp;nbsp;Saturday Nov.&amp;nbsp;6th.&amp;nbsp; Please visit their website for  more information on Pennsylvania wildlife.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:&lt;br /&gt;November 09, 2010&lt;br /&gt;Release #120-10 &lt;br /&gt;Source: &lt;a href="http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=512&amp;amp;objID=12775&amp;amp;PageID=648010&amp;amp;mode=2&amp;amp;contentid=http://pubcontent.state.pa.us/publishedcontent/publish/marketingsites/game_commission/content/resources/newsreleases/newsrelease/articles/release__120_10.html"&gt;The  Pennsylvania Game Commission&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ELK HUNTERS HARVEST 41 ELK IN 2010 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;HARRISBURG – Pennsylvania Game Commission Executive Director Carl G. Roe  today announced that 41 of the 51 licensed elk hunters were successful during  the 2010 elk season, which includes a possible new state record for the typical  elk category.&amp;nbsp; Of that total, 18 were antlered elk and 23 were antlerless  elk.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; “Elk are one of North America’s premier big game animals,” Roe said.&amp;nbsp;  “Pennsylvania is privileged to offer this unique hunting opportunity, a product  of successful wildlife management that supports Pennsylvania’s rich hunting  heritage.&amp;nbsp; It’s an unparalleled experience for hunters, particularly those who  can’t afford to go on an expensive one- or two-week guided elk hunt out West.”  &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The heaviest antlered elk was taken by John A. Murray Jr., of  Grindstone, Fayette County.&amp;nbsp; He took a 880-pound (estimated live weight), 7x7 on  Nov. 1, in Benezette Township, Elk County.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Those hunters rounding out the top five heaviest (all estimated  live weights) antlered elk harvested, were: Charles H. Stowman, of Westover,  Clearfield County, took a 868-pound, 8x7 on Nov. 3, in Grove Township, Cameron  County; Domenic V. Aversa Sr., of Woolwich, New Jersey, took an 867-pound, 7x7  on Nov. 1, in Jay Township, Elk County; Richard R. Lundgren, of Kittanning,  Armstrong County, took a 852-pound, 8x9 on Nov. 1, in Jay Township, Elk County;  and James F. Wolfe, of Mercersburg,&amp;nbsp;Franklin County, took an 823-pound, 7x7 on  Nov. 1, in Covington Township, Clearfield County. &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Roe noted that the antlers from Aversa’s elk green-scored at 389  and seven-eighths on the Boone &amp;amp; Crockett Club’s official scoring  system.&amp;nbsp; If that score holds after the required 60-day drying time, it will set  a new record for Pennsylvania state typical elk taken with a firearm. The  current record is held by John A. Polenski, of Meyersdale, Somerset County, who,  in 2009, &amp;nbsp;harvested a 6x7 antlered elk that scored 370. &lt;br /&gt;The heaviest antlerless elk was taken by Mark E. Gowarty, of Johnstown,  Cambria County, who harvested a 582-pound (estimated live weight) antlerless elk  on Nov. 2, in Benezette Township, Elk County. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/2010/11/pgc-releases-elk-hunt-results-100.html"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-6857196959899791654?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/6857196959899791654/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/11/pgc-releases-elk-hunt-results-100.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6857196959899791654'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6857196959899791654'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/11/pgc-releases-elk-hunt-results-100.html' title='PGC Releases Elk Hunt Results:  100% Success Rate On Bull Elk'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TNwWFgKbj4I/AAAAAAAACiA/yUO88dIT-_o/s72-c/_MG_2401+odie++8x10.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-3800799194095976453</id><published>2010-10-31T19:50:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2010-10-31T19:52:01.247-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Pa Elk Season 2010</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/TM4AdQC-IoI/AAAAAAAAEQ4/OgI6XZDs3xA/s1600/Limpy+IMG_4230.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" nx="true" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/TM4AdQC-IoI/AAAAAAAAEQ4/OgI6XZDs3xA/s640/Limpy+IMG_4230.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;In the morning the Pennsylvania Elk season or hunt as many call it will begin. Seventeen persons were successful in obtaining bull tags along with thirty three others with antlerless tags. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I sit here wondering what the outcome of this years season will be. How many of the bulls that so many have come to know, animals who are very trusting of humans, will fall to the bullets and arrows that will come their way in to coming days. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I cannot condemn the PGC for the need to manage these majestic animals but neither can I agree with any program that portrays these trusting animals as fitting trophies for hunters to proudly hang on their wall.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are other ways of managing the elk herd rather than selectively removing the best males from the herd with a trophy hunt. I cannot disagree that hunting is the best way to keep the herd within the management goals of the area but bull tags should at least for the most part be for animals who have passed their prime or who's genetics keep them from becoming dominate bulls at all. This could be done as simply as restricting the bull kill to branch antlered animals with 5 or less points per side. A slot restriction would get some younger bulls killed but we would be protecting the best breeding bulls at the time of their life where they can do the most good for this small isolated herd.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-3800799194095976453?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/3800799194095976453/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/10/pa-elk-season-2010.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/3800799194095976453'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/3800799194095976453'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/10/pa-elk-season-2010.html' title='Pa Elk Season 2010'/><author><name>Coy Hill</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17961295214970687017</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='27' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-prB57arPKHw/TveN3CgAg8I/AAAAAAAAFQg/SSy1EuWsdCc/s220/profile%2Bpic%2B12-15-11%2BIMG_3392.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/TM4AdQC-IoI/AAAAAAAAEQ4/OgI6XZDs3xA/s72-c/Limpy+IMG_4230.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-2460524941162500527</id><published>2010-10-06T19:57:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2010-10-06T20:00:13.665-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Country Visitor Center'/><title type='text'>Elk Country Visitor Center Grand Opening Held Today</title><content type='html'>Paul  Staniszewski reports from Elk County that he arrived at the Elk Country  Visitor Center this morning at 8:00 a.m., was given a Keystone Elk  Country Alliance vest, and went to work assisting DCNR officers with  traffic control and Parking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TK0LuajhwcI/AAAAAAAACf8/ljC5pId7CCM/s640/_MG_0780+visitor+center.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Elk Country Visitor Center&amp;nbsp; September 22, 2010:&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp; photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;According  to Mr. Staniszewski, "The governor arrived at 10:30AM and the  festivities began. After about an hour of speeches from the politicians  and refreshments it was over. A few of the notable politicians were, of  course, Governor Rendell, U.S. Congressman Glen Thompson, District  Representative Matt Gabler, and a lot of candidates that are running for  office. Other guests included PA Wilds Director Dan Surra, DCNR  Director John Quigley, representatives from the U.S Forest Service,  officials representing the village of Benezette, and the general public.  Also there were at least 50 people from DCNR all uniformed and the  Pennsylvania State Police were present. Noticeably absent was any  representation from the Pennsylvania Game Commission either in uniform  or not. My best guess estimate is that there were between 350 and 400  people there and at least 25 people from various media outlets recording  the event."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"All in all, I think that things went well  and everyone was impressed. One of the speakers mentioned that every  effort is being made to keep the center open all year round. My hope is  that more people become involved in protecting and preserving this  national treasure." Paul Staniszewski reporting from Benezette, October 6, 2010.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally Posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-2460524941162500527?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/2460524941162500527/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/10/elk-country-visitor-center-grand.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/2460524941162500527'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/2460524941162500527'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/10/elk-country-visitor-center-grand.html' title='Elk Country Visitor Center Grand Opening Held Today'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TK0LuajhwcI/AAAAAAAACf8/ljC5pId7CCM/s72-c/_MG_0780+visitor+center.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-4069314968691729569</id><published>2010-10-05T05:35:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2010-10-05T05:37:32.792-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Hunting and Tourism'/><title type='text'>An Unpleasant Encounter In Pennsylvania Elk Country</title><content type='html'>Dawn on September 29th, 2010 found me slowly moving toward my  favorite elk photography spot as the thunderous bugles of bull elk rent  the autumn air.&amp;nbsp; On this morning I was accompanied by three other  persons,&amp;nbsp; my brother Coy of Country Captures, and our good friend  Richard and one of his relatives. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="360" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TKmdogfjNKI/AAAAAAAACfU/dpkOssEbcvo/s320/approach+stand.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Approaching The Favorite Spot:&lt;/span&gt; Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Over  the years this spot has rewarded me with some of the most exciting   experiences I have had in the great outdoors.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; These experiences   included numerous encounters with large numbers of exceptional bull   elk.&amp;nbsp; In 2003 I saw and recorded the mating of a bull and cow, and the   best experience of all was when I recorded a fight between what is now   known as Bull 36 (Fred) and an impressive monster known as the Test Hill   Bull.&amp;nbsp; This fight is part of the theater presentation at the new Elk   Country Visitor Center today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Little did I realize  that&amp;nbsp; my&amp;nbsp; memories of the area would soon be tainted forever by a very  unpleasant encounter.&amp;nbsp; Suddenly I spotted a young bull elk horning a  sapling above me on the hill side and began to position the camera to  film him, when suddenly I spotted something out of place in the tall  grass that grew alongside the pathway in front of me.&amp;nbsp; I swung the  camera toward the spot and was amazed to see that two persons were  crouched in the grass.&amp;nbsp; What had drawn my attention was the reflection  from the hunting license attached to the back of one of the persons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TKmf65mfbpI/AAAAAAAACfY/-PgUBD4fcjw/s640/hunter+and+guide+stand.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;A Surprise:&lt;/span&gt; Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;It  seemed likely that this was the hunter who had the Governor's  Conservation elk tag for this year.&amp;nbsp; This is a special bull permit that  is awarded to the highest bidder in an auction conducted by some  prominent conservation organization chosen by the PGC.&amp;nbsp; The first  drawing was in 2009 when the tag was auctioned by the National Wild  Turkey Federation and brought in $28,000.&amp;nbsp; According to state law up to  20% of the proceeds may be retained by the organization that conducts  the auction while the rest is returned to the PGC to fund elk management  programs. In this the second year, the tag was given to the Rocky  Mountain Elk Foundation and was auctioned off for $35,000.&amp;nbsp; The  successful bidder is permitted to harvest one bull elk anywhere in the  Pennsylvania elk range except for the No Hunt Zone and according to the  2010-11 Pennsylvania Hunting and Trapping Digest, may hunt from  September 1st through November 6th.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At this point I  decided to maintain my position and photograph the young bull, which in  fact the other members of the party were already doing. Note: most  photos in this post are frame captures from a Canon XL-H1 Video Camera.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TKmkc6GM8pI/AAAAAAAACfc/vfaX4B6rAS4/s640/young+bull+rubs+sapling+1.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Young Bull Rubbing Sapling:&lt;/span&gt; Photo by W.Hill &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;As  I was filming the bull I noticed movement to the left and the hunter  and guide emerged from cover and walked away from the area, vanishing  into a ravine some distance away.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TKmlKbFwj2I/AAAAAAAACfg/iv_AGKHBS0k/s640/hunter+and+guide+walking+1.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Hunter and Guide Leave Area:&lt;/span&gt; Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;After  they vanished from sight, I moved on to my favorite spot on a retention  pond bank while the rest of the party continued to photograph the small  bull.&amp;nbsp; From this vantage point I could see the top of the rack of a  mature bull and signaled the rest of the party that a large bull was on  top of the hill.&amp;nbsp; At the time the animal was lying down, but soon stood  up.&amp;nbsp; This animal had been injured earlier in the rut and walked with a  distinct limp.&amp;nbsp; He spent much of the week of September 20th lying in a  camp lawn along Winslow Hill Road, but now he had moved some distance  away to this meadow where a newly reclaimed area was planted in fall  grain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="344" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TKmm6J985SI/AAAAAAAACfk/fhmpDvdJLvc/s640/coy+photographs+bull.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Coy Hill Photographs Bull Lying Down:&lt;/span&gt; Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;In  time the bull stood up and I was able to photograph the entire animal.&amp;nbsp;  This particular animal has no fear whatsoever of humans and will not  run from them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TKmnhB9b4bI/AAAAAAAACfo/W0pKd8cxciE/s640/bull+standing.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Crippled Bull:&lt;/span&gt; Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;While  the rest of the party were photographing the bull, I noticed the hunter  and guide walking up a ravine to my left.&amp;nbsp; They stopped at the cluster  of trees to the right of the large mound of earth and stayed there for  an extended period of time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TKmoVJNPDdI/AAAAAAAACfs/Dk7gZm-ev1o/s640/_MG_1196+estsablishing+scene.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;View From Pond Bank To Ravine:&lt;/span&gt; Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When  the other members of my party finished photographing the bull, they  came down the hill to the pond bank where I was standing.&amp;nbsp; We discussed  the morning's encounter with the bulls and waited in the hopes that more  elk would appear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TKmpVP034LI/AAAAAAAACfw/S2tOLJW-zxY/s640/_MG_1206+looking+to+top+of+hill.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Facing Area Where Bull Had Been, Shows Hillside That Hunter And Guide Approached Us By:&lt;/span&gt; Photo by C.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After  a time the hunter and guide came along the hillside in front of where I  am standing in the above photo and then came striding down the hillside  to us.&amp;nbsp; The hunter asked us if we were aware that they were conducting a  hunt in the area.&amp;nbsp; He explained that these were game lands purchased by  hunting license dollars to be used for hunting purposes. They were  working a bull in the area and we had interfered with them.&amp;nbsp; (It is a  violation of the Pennsylvania Game and Wildlife Code to interfere with a  lawful hunt), At this time I invited the hunter to file charges against  me so we could settle this in a court of law.&amp;nbsp; (In actuality he would  need to report the incident to a PGC officer who would investigate and  decide if a violation had in fact occurred, and&amp;nbsp; file charges if  warranted).&amp;nbsp; I also asked the hunter if he was accusing me of harassing  him and he said," no", at which point I informed him that he was coming  dangerously close to harassing me.&amp;nbsp; I then turned to the guide and  recapped the events of the morning, noting that I was coming to an area  that I utilize quite frequently and in fact was my favorite spot for elk  viewing an photography. I had done exactly the same thing on several  morning's and evenings in the last two weeks and the only thing that was  different today was that they (the hunting party) were in the area this  morning.&amp;nbsp; I stopped immediately upon sighting them, did not create a  disturbance and did not move until until after they left the area.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; I  asked the guide if he had a problem with this and he said that he did  not.&amp;nbsp; They then wished us "a good day" and "good luck" and left the area  while we remained for some time in the hopes of further elk sightings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  crux of the matter is that we were engaged in a&amp;nbsp; legal activity in an  area where we had every legal right to be.&amp;nbsp; As far as I know, the guide  and hunter were also engaged in a legal activity in an area where they  had the legal right to be.&amp;nbsp; It would have been inappropriate for us to  approach them while they were hunting and discuss the ethics of the  situation in which they were involved, to purposefully frighten the  animal they were hunting, or otherwise prevent them from hunting it, but  simply being in the same area is not interfering with the hunt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some  will think he had a point about the land being bought with hunting  license dollars for hunting purposes, but this is not nearly as valid as  it appears at first glance.&amp;nbsp; For one thing one would need to research  the matter to see just how that portion of State Game Lands 311 was  purchased, as&amp;nbsp; funds from a variety of sources other than hunting  license dollars are often utilized in such land transactions.&amp;nbsp; Also it  is likely that most if not all in our party either buy a hunting license  each year or have done so in the past.&amp;nbsp; I bought my first license at  somewhere between fourteen and sixteen years of age and continued to do  so until 1998 when I quit hunting.&amp;nbsp; My brother Coy bought his first  license at a young age and continues to do so today, so it is not a  simple case of hunters vs anti-hunters or hunters vs non-consumptive  users.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since I am about eight years older than the  hunter, but stopped buying a license twelve years ago, it is possible  that he has only had been a license holder for four more years than I  have been-although he could have started buying his license at twelve  years of age, which would bias the scale a bit more in his favor, but  that being said, I have contributed almost as much to the game fund by  buying a license as he has, yet it seems persons such as I should not be  on the game lands or at least not while hunters are present.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But  he spent $35,000 for a special tag so that puts him far ahead of me in  contributing to wildlife conservation, or does it?&amp;nbsp; I was as a Deputy  Wildlife Conservation Officer (DWCO) from 1982 until 2006 and served in a  district which had a&amp;nbsp; large number of deputies.Coy began a few years  later and retired in the same time period that I did.&amp;nbsp; During my early  years with the PGC it was common to be allocated twelve paid days per  year, which were paid during the fall hunting seasons.&amp;nbsp; At the sum of  $30.00 per day this resulted in a total income of $360.00 per year  before taxes, yet we were young and motivated and it was common to work  40 to 100 hours per month during the months of September, October,  November, and December.&amp;nbsp; In addition I have donated numerous photographs  and video footage to the PGC for their use, and Coy has donated  numerous photos as well.&amp;nbsp; In addition I retired from the full-time  position of Game Lands Maintenance Supervisor for Fulton County and  portions of Bedford and Franklin Counties. Considering this I think our  contribution to wildlife conservation has been significant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With  that being said though, these factors shouldn't enter the equation.&amp;nbsp;  The area where they were hunting should still be part of the No Hunt  Zone as it was from the first Hunt in 2001 until 2005 as most elk in  this area are completely acclimated to humans and are easily  approachable. . With over 865,000 square miles of elk range, why must  there be elk hunting in this particular area, and how could a hunter  expect privacy during the peak elk viewing season-or did they expect  that everyone should stay away from the area in the off chance that they  might be hunting there? The area in question is quite near the Gilbert  Viewing Area and is open to the public. The hunters should have expected  to encounter other persons and in fact the area was inundated with  people during the previous weekend. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One should be  required to have either a valid hunting license, or a&amp;nbsp; Game Lands use  permit to be present on State Game Lands.&amp;nbsp; This would ensure that  everyone contributed financially to wildlife conservation and&amp;nbsp; would  remove the argument that non-hunters do not contribute to wildlife  conservation and should not be there during hunting seasons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For more reading about this subject please visit &lt;a href="http://countrycaptures.blogspot.com/"&gt;Country Captures&lt;/a&gt; and read Elk Hunt Zone 2 &amp;amp; The Viewing Areas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-4069314968691729569?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/4069314968691729569/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/10/unpleasant-encounter-in-pennsylvania.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/4069314968691729569'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/4069314968691729569'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/10/unpleasant-encounter-in-pennsylvania.html' title='An Unpleasant Encounter In Pennsylvania Elk Country'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TKmdogfjNKI/AAAAAAAACfU/dpkOssEbcvo/s72-c/approach+stand.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-1153007416198604105</id><published>2010-09-10T09:20:00.006-04:00</published><updated>2010-09-11T14:04:52.230-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Country Visitor Center'/><title type='text'>Elk Country Visitor Center Now Open, Cogan Named President &amp; CEO Of Keystone Elk Country Alliance</title><content type='html'>According to a report from Paul Staniszewski , yesterday September  9th was the first day that the Visitor Center was open for the public.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul says, "I  was shocked because there was no signage indicating that it was open at  the entrance and no promotion and yet there were 200 visitors cars in  the parking lot and the place was packed.The center will be open 7 days a  week and the hours of operation will be 8:00AM and closing will vary  with darkness which is currently around8:00PM. The "official" opening is  scheduled for mid October." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul also reports that  according to Pennsylvania's leading elk photographer, Ron Saffer and PGC  Elk Biologist Aide Mark Gritzer, the rut and bugling has at least two  more weeks to reach the peak.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TIouiV4iCHI/AAAAAAAACeU/qkTGb8G9hJc/s1600/_MG_6631+skyllined+bull+bugles.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TIouiV4iCHI/AAAAAAAACeU/qkTGb8G9hJc/s640/_MG_6631+skyllined+bull+bugles.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bull During Peak Of Rut 2009&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;In another development the Pennsylvania DCNR  announced more information about the Elk Country Visitor Center in the  September 1st Issue of their newsletter "Resource" , the most important  being that Rawland Cogan was named CEO of The Keystone Elk Country  Alliance, also know as KECA, and KECA will operate the visitor center.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TIouFnZnApI/AAAAAAAACeQ/gVkWvqzPiVU/s1600/r+cogan+introduction+speech.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="360" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TIouFnZnApI/AAAAAAAACeQ/gVkWvqzPiVU/s640/r+cogan+introduction+speech.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rawland "Rawley" Cogan President And CEO of KECA:&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;photo by W.Hill&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;The Following is an excerpt from the newsletter,  containing the most important part of the release. For the release in  its' entirety, click &lt;a href="http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/news/resource/res2010/10-0901-elkcenter.aspx"&gt;Here!&lt;/a&gt;, which will take you to the online version of the news release.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"In  September 2009, DCNR entered an agreement with the Pennsylvania Parks  and Forests Foundation to help the department complete the Elk Center  after an initial partnership with the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation was  concluded.&lt;br /&gt;“We appreciate PPFF’s willingness to step in and ensure  that the center could be completed in the original time frame,” Quigley  said. “It’s a true reflection of the foundation’s commitment to support  a shared goal of conservation and connecting people to nature through  terrific outdoor experiences.”&lt;br /&gt;“With construction nearing  completion, it was clear that DCNR was in need of a new partner to  operate the center,” KECA Chairman of the Board John Geissler said. “In  December 2009, our organization was created for that purpose. The best  part of this effort may be that all the funds we raise in Pennsylvania  will remain right here in Pennsylvania’s elk range and at the Elk  Center.&lt;br /&gt;“Another great boost to our cause happened the day Rawley  Cogan agreed to serve as President and CEO of the Keystone Elk Country  Alliance,” Geissler said. “Rawley is a wildlife biologist noted for his  work with Pennsylvania elk and their reintroduction into the wild  landscape. Rawley played an integral part in the land acquisition and  planning of the Elk Mountain Homestead and Elk Country Visitor Center  from its inception.”&lt;br /&gt;“I am honored to have been chosen to be the  first President and CEO of the new Keystone Elk Country Alliance,” Cogan  said. “As we move forward, the alliance will focus its resources in  three areas — conservation education,habitat enhancement and permanent land protection. Source: &lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;September 1, 2010 PA DCNR Newsletter&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer &lt;/a&gt;by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-1153007416198604105?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/1153007416198604105/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/09/elk-country-visitor-center-now-open.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/1153007416198604105'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/1153007416198604105'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/09/elk-country-visitor-center-now-open.html' title='Elk Country Visitor Center Now Open, Cogan Named President &amp; CEO Of Keystone Elk Country Alliance'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TIouiV4iCHI/AAAAAAAACeU/qkTGb8G9hJc/s72-c/_MG_6631+skyllined+bull+bugles.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-543634325607064092</id><published>2010-09-07T13:30:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-09-07T13:30:48.877-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Country Visitor Center'/><title type='text'>Pennsylvania Elk Country Visitor Center: A More Critical Look</title><content type='html'>It seems that most written commentary portrays the Elk Country  Visitor Center soon to open on Winslow Hill as a positive thing, yet  when one scratches below the surface they find quite a bit of  apprehension among landowners and many visitors to elk country as to how  the opening of the Center will impact Benezette, Winslow Hill, and  surrounding areas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rawland "Rawley" Cogan alluded to  these concerns while setting forth his view of the Visitor Center during  the "Wild About Elk" Workshop last June. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THvH-3ZDoeI/AAAAAAAACdU/_7ZolS2DR3A/s1600/day+trip+then+leave.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THvH-3ZDoeI/AAAAAAAACdU/_7ZolS2DR3A/s640/day+trip+then+leave.jpg" width="528" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rawley Cogan Explains Position On Economic Development:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt; photo by W.Hill&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While many view elk and other wildlife  solely from the perspective of wildlife conservation, hunting, and  eco-tourism, Mr.Cogan explained the economic importance of the center to  an economically depressed region which has seen the loss of a lot of  jobs, many of which will not return. Cogan also stressed the need to  preserve Benezette from unfettered development. The following is a  direct quote by Mr. Cogan:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Part of our role in  Keystone Elk Country Alliance is to drive economic activity throughout  the region so when people come here, they need a place to stay.  Benezette needs to stay Benezette. It needs to protect its' sense of  place. Benezette is a quaint little old coal mining, timbering town that  gives you kind of that step back in time feel and you don't want to  change that, because if you change it, it's like every other place. So  Benezette doesn't have the infrastructure for eco-tourism and the hotels  and the restaurants, they've done pretty well with what they have. Our  hope is to drive economic activity into places that they already have  the infrastructure like St. Marys, and Clearfield, and  Ridgway,Johnsonburg, Emporium,and DuBois, that they've got it in place  so people will make the day trip into elk country and go to these other  towns and cities to spend the night.” &lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Rawland Cogan 06-16-2010&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While  Mr. Cogan hopes to preserve Benezette and one would presume Winslow  Hill as well, it is by no means clear how he proposes to do so. If the  influx of tourists comes, what is to prevent much of the private  property in the area from being developed to a much greater extent than  it is today? Perhaps there is a plan to deal with this but it seems that  most are unaware of any such plan. One Winslow Hill resident expressed  deep concern that properties on the hill may be seized by eminent  domain, but there have been no official statements concerning this that I  am aware of. There are only so many options available to control  growth, which includes seizing the land for a park type situation,  zoning, or the purchase of development rights from landowners. It is  certain that hope alone is not going to prevent rampant development.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TIZs79W4SSI/AAAAAAAACd8/8h0szCzH3s4/s1600/CRW_7330+viewing+elk-will+this+be+lost.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="518" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TIZs79W4SSI/AAAAAAAACd8/8h0szCzH3s4/s640/CRW_7330+viewing+elk-will+this+be+lost.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;What Will Protect Remaining Private Land From Development? &lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Photo by W.Hill&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prominent photographer, Bob Shank who has  owned a camp on Winslow Hill for twenty years or more, reports that lot  prices have skyrocketed lately with lots going for six times what they  did in the early 1990s.&amp;nbsp; Shank feels that a recent steep price increase&amp;nbsp;  is because the company which owns the undeveloped land anticipates a  greatly increased demand for campsites with the opening of the visitor  center.&amp;nbsp; Shank also points out several key properties on Winslow Hill  that are unprotected from development, and wishes he had the resources  to purchase them and eventually turn them over to his son or an  organization such as The Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, or The  Pennsylvania Game Commission so that they would be preserved.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TIZtjZ0tWgI/AAAAAAAACeA/yVj1N1lVdo8/s1600/_MG_8150+bull+62+herd+-smileys.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TIZtjZ0tWgI/AAAAAAAACeA/yVj1N1lVdo8/s640/_MG_8150+bull+62+herd+-smileys.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Vulnerable Habitat: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;A couple who are long time members of the RMEF also  thinks much the same way and ponder if perhaps money spent on building a  visitor center would not have been better utilized in buying and  protecting more land.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is possible that the Center  will provide a focal point for elk based tourism to such an extent that  the casual tourist will not be inclined to explore other areas that are  not developed for tourism, and thereby alleviate tourist pressure. This  is not a given; however, as it is possible that the network of trails  and viewing blinds at the Center will not be able to handle the influx  of tourists at peak periods, which could result in increased pressure  on&amp;nbsp; surrounding private property and public lands.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A  successful Visitor Center should help counteract those who would like to  see a substantial part of the herd on Winslow Hill shot off. There are  those who view the elk as a problem and would like to see a drastic  reduction in the herd of acclimated elk. This ranges from some in the  Pennsylvania Game Commission who either view the elk primarily as a  problem, or solely as another hunting opportunity, to the private  landowner that may object to elk damage and would rather not have them  around, or may actually like the elk, but is so upset by rampant  trespassing and traffic congestion that they would prefer to see the elk  herd drastically reduced, which in time would cause a marked decrease  in tourism. Some who view the elk situation from a hunting opportunity  standpoint alone, give the impression that they would like to have the  herd on Winslow Hill reduced to the point that it is no longer easily  visible, which would result in more of a fair chase hunt, and reduce  problems with tourists, but at the expense of viable elk tourism. The  Center should also lend increased weight to the demand for more mature  bulls and improve the chances for implementation of more strategies to  prevent the over-harvest of this class of elk, which has occurred since  the elk hunt began in 2001.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TIZxCNWycrI/AAAAAAAACeE/gYu-jmT3KyQ/s1600/CRW_7358+9x7.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TIZxCNWycrI/AAAAAAAACeE/gYu-jmT3KyQ/s640/CRW_7358+9x7.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;More Mature Bulls Needed&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt; Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whatever one's point of view, the Visitor  Center is about to become a reality, but there certainly is room for  continued debate about where we should go from here and what steps  should be taken to preserve the character of the Benezette area. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While  the Center apparently did not open for the Labor Day weekend, it  appears that they will open to the public later this month, but the  official Grand Opening will not be until October.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-543634325607064092?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/543634325607064092/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/09/pennsylvania-elk-country-visitor-center.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/543634325607064092'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/543634325607064092'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/09/pennsylvania-elk-country-visitor-center.html' title='Pennsylvania Elk Country Visitor Center: A More Critical Look'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THvH-3ZDoeI/AAAAAAAACdU/_7ZolS2DR3A/s72-c/day+trip+then+leave.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-4565876749623912433</id><published>2010-08-30T22:42:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2010-08-31T06:01:13.652-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Visitor Center'/><title type='text'>Keystone Elk Country Alliance To Decide On Wednesday About Labor Day Weekend Opening</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THxVtjXQbyI/AAAAAAAACdc/hkOqYP70o7E/s1600/_MG_7958+visitor+center-06-16-10.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THxVtjXQbyI/AAAAAAAACdc/hkOqYP70o7E/s640/_MG_7958+visitor+center-06-16-10.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Elk Country Visitor Center: June 16, 2010&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;-photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There has been a lot of speculation as to  when the Elk Country Visitors Center near Benezette, Pa. will open and  today Paul Staniszewski, a Juried PA Wilds Artisan, sent the latest news  concerning the center and the opening date.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr.  Staniszewski reports, "I went up to Benezette this morning (Monday) and  saw that a black iron gate like the one going to the Homestead has now  been installed at the entrance to the visitors center.... Also, a cinder  block base has been constructed to hold the Elk Country Visitors Center  sign.... The people at the visitors center tell me that they will  decide on Wednesday if they will open for Labor Day week".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The opening date will be posted on T&lt;a href="http://www.experienceelkcountry.com/"&gt;he Keystone Elk Country Alliance Website&lt;/a&gt;. Be sure to click on the Visitor Center tab.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul also reports seeing several bulls and hearing a lot of bugling on Winslow Hill as the rut gets underway.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THxNuwBiwnI/AAAAAAAACdY/idy4hfntxZM/s1600/0823+7x7+bull+courtesy+p+stanszweski.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THxNuwBiwnI/AAAAAAAACdY/idy4hfntxZM/s640/0823+7x7+bull+courtesy+p+stanszweski.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pennsylvania Bull Elk&lt;/span&gt;: photo courtesy of Paul Stanszewski-all rights reserved&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Paul has also heard&amp;nbsp; that the buildings at the  Gilbert Viewing Area are scheduled to be razed very soon as the  reclamation project in that area comes to a close.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THxXtzWDGAI/AAAAAAAACdg/EDzXCaXySDE/s1600/CRW_9431gilbert+winter+2006.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THxXtzWDGAI/AAAAAAAACdg/EDzXCaXySDE/s640/CRW_9431gilbert+winter+2006.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Gilbert Buildings Likely Scheduled For Demolition:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;b&gt;Photo by W.Hill-Winter 2006&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;I have referred to this as "The Gilbert Viewing Area"  for years, but this is not the official name at present.&amp;nbsp; It was called  The Gilbert Farm when I first went to Elk County in 1995 as it was  owned by Kenny Gilbert who spent summers there and winters in Florida.&amp;nbsp;  In 2000 the Pennsylvania Game Commission, the Pennsylvania Department of  Conservation and Natural Resources, and the Rocky Mountain Elk  Foundation partnered with the Western Pennsylvania Conservancy to  purchase the land.&amp;nbsp; Later stewardship of the property was transferred to  the Pennsylvania Game Commission. At the time of purchase , it was  simply referred to as "The Gilbert" and it seemed likely that it would  be called "the Gilbert Viewing Area", yet when a sign was erected last  year, it was named "The Porcupine Hollow-Winslow Hill Viewing Area".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THxhdCGHy_I/AAAAAAAACdk/FaB1XCmJFM4/s1600/porcupine+run-winslow+hill.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="360" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THxhdCGHy_I/AAAAAAAACdk/FaB1XCmJFM4/s640/porcupine+run-winslow+hill.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Porcupine Run-Winslow Hill Elk Viewing Area Sign:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We have no other confirmation that the  demolition is scheduled, but it is consistent with Game Commission  policy as in most cases he PGC does not maintain buildings on lands  which it acquires unless they are suited for a specific need. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted at&lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt; Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-4565876749623912433?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/4565876749623912433/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/08/keystone-elk-country-alliance-to-decide.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/4565876749623912433'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/4565876749623912433'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/08/keystone-elk-country-alliance-to-decide.html' title='Keystone Elk Country Alliance To Decide On Wednesday About Labor Day Weekend Opening'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THxVtjXQbyI/AAAAAAAACdc/hkOqYP70o7E/s72-c/_MG_7958+visitor+center-06-16-10.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-426896614276388648</id><published>2010-08-21T22:28:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2010-08-21T22:37:02.770-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Country Visitor Center'/><title type='text'>Elk Country Visitor Center To Open September 9th?</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THCHC5aHYOI/AAAAAAAACdA/XPwLrJeLv4g/s1600/_MG_7963+visitors+center.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THCHC5aHYOI/AAAAAAAACdA/XPwLrJeLv4g/s640/_MG_7963+visitors+center.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Elk Country Visitor Center Under Construction June 16, 2010&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;-photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Rumors abounded in Pennsylvania elk  country during the late 1990's and early 2000's about the future  construction of a visitors center for elk tourism on Winslow Hill.  At  that time the favored spot was in the area known as “The Saddle". This  is the area on Winslow Hill, near the Gilbert Farm, which has been the  site of a reclamation project for most of this decade. Most assumed that  a visitors center would be built and operated by The Pennsylvania Game  Commission, but subsequent events proved this to not be the case.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps  the initial happening in a string of events that was to change the  situation entirely began in 2002  when Pennsylvania Game Commission Elk  Biologist Rawland, “Rawley” Cogan resigned his position as elk biologist  with the Pennsylvania Game Commission and went to work for the Rocky  Mountain Elk Foundation as Northeast Lands Program Manager.  The next  important step was when the RMEF purchased the 245 ace Betta Tree Farm  on the lower reaches of Winslow Hill, which became known as Elk Mountain  Homestead. It is unclear as to whether the property  was purchased with the goal of building a visitor center, but within a  short time of the acquisition the possibility was openly discussed and  the RMEF Newsletter “Wapiti” featured an article by Julie Cowan in the  winter 2007 edition, “Elk foundation, Pennsylvania DCNR Announce  Partnership for Visitor Center” , which verified that this was to be the  official course of action.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The  official groundbreaking for the construction of the center was on  September 25, 2008, but actual construction did not begin until late May  of 2009 (Source-May 20, 2009 issue DCNR Newsletter “Resource”)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According  to the 2007 article by Ms. Cowan, the center was to be open by the fall  of 2009, but this was not to be and the project met a major set-back  instead when the RMEF abruptly withdrew from the project in September  2009, and transferred ownership of the property to DCNR. It was soon  back on track; however, with the founding of the Keystone Elk Country  Alliance, which stepped in to fill the void left by the departure of the  RMEF and named Cogan as project Manager for the Visitor Center.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THCJQFGcpFI/AAAAAAAACdI/v5Lk_UOOlCw/s1600/_MG_7939+rawland+cogan.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THCJQFGcpFI/AAAAAAAACdI/v5Lk_UOOlCw/s640/_MG_7939+rawland+cogan.jpg" width="600" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;"Rawley Cogan" Project Manager For Visitor Center Addresses "Wild About Elk Workshop" June 16, 2010-&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;photo by W.Hill&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;The actual opening date has been difficult to pin down, as &lt;a href="http://experienceelkcountry.com/about.html"&gt;The Keystone Elk Country Alliance Website &lt;/a&gt;has  not given a firm opening date until very recently. It now appears that  the center should open no later than September 9, 2009 according to Paul  Staniszewski, a Juried PA Wilds Artist, who specializes in  macro-photography and the production of Floral Note Cards.  Mr  Staniszewski has been engaged to provide products for the Visitor Center  gift shop, and recently received official notification that the “for  sure” opening date is September 9th, while Visitor Center Officials are  still hoping for sooner if possible.  This is further confirmed by the  recent updating of the &lt;a href="http://draft.blogger.com/goog_1411240526"&gt;The Keystone Elk Country Alliance Website's &lt;/a&gt;&lt;ahref="http: experienceelkcountry.com="" vc.html=""&gt;&lt;a href="http://experienceelkcountry.com/vc.html"&gt;Visitor Center Page&lt;/a&gt; which now says, “anticipated to open September 9, 2010.&lt;/ahref="http:&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ahref="http: experienceelkcountry.com="" vc.html=""&gt;&lt;/ahref="http:&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ahref="http: experienceelkcountry.com="" vc.html=""&gt;&lt;/ahref="http:&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THCHtMm6SDI/AAAAAAAACdE/gnIhPg0U4rg/s1600/_MG_9184+photographing+elk+visitors+center.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THCHtMm6SDI/AAAAAAAACdE/gnIhPg0U4rg/s640/_MG_9184+photographing+elk+visitors+center.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;"Wild About Elk" Workshop Participants Observe Elk Near Visitor Center Parking Area-June 16, 2010- &lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;photo by W.Hill&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;ahref="http: experienceelkcountry.com="" vc.html=""&gt;I  hope to take a closer look at the impact the Visitor Center may have on  the Benezette area in the next installment, which should be posted  within the next few days.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/ahref="http:&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ahref="http: experienceelkcountry.com="" vc.html=""&gt;Originally posted at Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer by Willard Hill&lt;/ahref="http:&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-426896614276388648?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/426896614276388648/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/08/elk-country-visitor-center-to-open.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/426896614276388648'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/426896614276388648'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/08/elk-country-visitor-center-to-open.html' title='Elk Country Visitor Center To Open September 9th?'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/THCHC5aHYOI/AAAAAAAACdA/XPwLrJeLv4g/s72-c/_MG_7963+visitors+center.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-8912833251781098812</id><published>2010-08-15T09:10:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-08-15T09:10:36.806-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pa Elk'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='deformed antlers'/><title type='text'>Genetics and the Hunt</title><content type='html'>Broad based hunting seasons with the general population hunting is assumed to normally distribute the harvesting of young through mature male animals. &amp;nbsp;However, without controls and restrictions the maturity and broad based gene pool is still often effected as evidenced by the Pa Whitetail deer hunting program. &amp;nbsp;For a number of years the antlered season was run without any restrictions other than the antlered deer had to have one antler at least three inches long. &amp;nbsp;With advances in rifle and scope technology and the easier access to all hunting grounds, the Pa whitetail deer population had few males reaching 4 to 5 years old and most antlered deer harvested were small in antler structure. &amp;nbsp;That style season did not selectively harvest trophy animals as most of the hunters afield only wanted to say "I got my buck". &amp;nbsp;A few years ago an antler restriction of at least three points per side was added and a significant change has occurred in the antlered deer population in PA with many more very mature antlered deer resulting. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Pa Elk Hunt is administered with antlerless and antlered tags. &amp;nbsp;There is no program currently to cull particular gene pools from the elk population or control the age and genetic make up of the animals that are harvested. &amp;nbsp;The data collection and interviewing I have done of hunters that desire to hunt bull elk in PA has brought to focus a concern for the long term health of the Pa Elk Herd. &amp;nbsp;Most of the hunters are only interested in harvesting a "Trophy" bull. &amp;nbsp;they are paying a significant guide fee and it is like winning the lottery to draw a permit, let a lone an antlered permit. &amp;nbsp;With a small herd (less than 800) this can create a situation where the breeding bulls with what is considered "trophy racks" can be culled from the herd to the point that the bulls with non-trophy or deformed racks become the primary breeding stock for the Pa Elk Herd. &amp;nbsp;It is recognized among game biologists that selective culling must be done in small herds to maintain a herd with broad based genetics. &amp;nbsp;I began researching this topic after seeing five bulls in the same area near Benezett last winter that all had similar deformities of the right antler. &amp;nbsp;It was obvious from observation that all of these bulls were genetically deformed and had not had some antler damage done during velvet to cause the deformity as some tried to convince me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here are images of three of the bulls:&lt;br /&gt;(these images do not follow rules of photography of animals--they are cropped to illustrate antler structure)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LAg1RRRY8as/TGfjhSPljUI/AAAAAAAAAO4/le0y1D76xhY/s1600/_BSE4833_2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LAg1RRRY8as/TGfjhSPljUI/AAAAAAAAAO4/le0y1D76xhY/s640/_BSE4833_2.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;This one may be Dad or Grandpa&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LAg1RRRY8as/TGfjwZOCdYI/AAAAAAAAAO8/Ggqv9cAC21s/s1600/_BSE4868_2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LAg1RRRY8as/TGfjwZOCdYI/AAAAAAAAAO8/Ggqv9cAC21s/s640/_BSE4868_2.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LAg1RRRY8as/TGfj6k_x4BI/AAAAAAAAAPA/1TQ0beCzqd4/s1600/_2JA2620.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LAg1RRRY8as/TGfj6k_x4BI/AAAAAAAAAPA/1TQ0beCzqd4/s640/_2JA2620.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;The other two bulls that were with the above three stayed deeper in the brush and did not provide me with an opportunity to photograph them clearly. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;All of these bulls are within the hunt zone. &amp;nbsp;If the hunt is continued on the same basis as it is now-bulls like these could become the primary breeding stock of the herd which could result in the majority of the bulls in the herd having antler structure such as this is some other antler form. &amp;nbsp;Since the Pa Bull Elk are so easily accessible (guides would lead you to believe this is not true-but look at the 100% kill stats in Pa compared to 15% in western states) the Pa Game Commission could implement a program similar to what is done on ranches in Wyoming, Montana and Texas for deer. &amp;nbsp;That program would have tags that are for specific animals that would be culled from the herd for long term health of the herd. &amp;nbsp;An outfall of that would be that antlered tags would not be as cherished and the number of applicants might go down. The bottom line is that the Elk Hunt in Pa has not been very well thought out in terms of management of the herd for its long term health.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;Respectfully&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;Jim Borden&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://camer-critter.blogspot.com/"&gt;Click here For more camera critters&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-8912833251781098812?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/8912833251781098812/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/08/genetics-and-hunt.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/8912833251781098812'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/8912833251781098812'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/08/genetics-and-hunt.html' title='Genetics and the Hunt'/><author><name>JimB</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05400574861179520996</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XRx5oJAaWBQ/Tf_wwkAwkkI/AAAAAAAAAdM/39lgoX1YZxM/s220/jim_profile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LAg1RRRY8as/TGfjhSPljUI/AAAAAAAAAO4/le0y1D76xhY/s72-c/_BSE4833_2.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-1159971572257108660</id><published>2010-07-29T15:35:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-29T15:35:57.407-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Wild About Elk: Elk And People-Issues With Elk: Part II: Artificial Feeding</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TFHE7e8RabI/AAAAAAAACb8/2JimQi5C2Qk/s1600/Tourists+Feed+Bul.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TFHE7e8RabI/AAAAAAAACb8/2JimQi5C2Qk/s640/Tourists+Feed+Bul.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Hand Feeding Of Elk Is Risky, And Is Illegal In Pennsylvania&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt; Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;According to WCO McDowell, the PGC suspects feeding  as the cause  of death for 12 elk, but only four cases have been  confirmed in laboratory tests.  One workshop attendee questioned why elk  could die from eating corn, but it was not a threat to deer.  At this  point Mr. McDowell explained that deer are also vulnerable and dealt with  the situation in depth,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His presentation covered much of the information given in &lt;b&gt;PGC News  Release #088-09 "ARTIFICIAL FEEDING CONFIRMED IN DEATHS OF FOUR ELK: GAME  COMMISSION SAYS LITTER CAUSING RISK TO WILDLIFE &lt;/b&gt;”&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt; Source: &lt;a href="http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/pgc/9106"&gt;The Pennsylvania Game Commission&lt;/a&gt;:-Resources-News Releases-1999-2009 Archives&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The following is a  pertinent excerpt from the Release: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;HARRISBURG – &lt;/b&gt;Pennsylvania  Game Commission officials recently reported that there have been four  cases involving elk that have died of rumen acidosis, which is directly  related to artificial feeding that causes an abrupt change in an elk’s  diet that wreaks havoc with its digestive system. Feeding elk is  illegal, as it causes problems by habituating elk to find food around  homes and can be dangerous to those who attempt to feed elk by hand. So  far, we have been able to document four cases of such deaths,” said Dr.  Walter Cottrell, Game Commission wildlife veterinarian. “There have been  other deaths that believed may have been caused by such feeding, but,  in those cases the animal was either decomposed or other circumstances  prevented it from obtaining the carcass in time for laboratory analysis  to take place.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dr. Cottrell explained that elk, as  well as white-tailed deer, adapt to a winter diet of primarily woody  vegetation and they will die of acidosis caused by a build up of lactic  acid in the rumen, chambers of its four-part stomach that is responsible  for fermentation of food. If they consume too much high-fermentable  grain, such as corn, which is the most common artificial feed put out by  local residents, the pH level falls quickly and a shock-like syndrome  can occur.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Local residents have been issued citations  for the illegal feeding. In one case, an elk was found lying dead on a  pile of corn. In another case, a resident dragged the carcass of a dead  elk into the woods in an attempt to conceal the situation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We  need to have local residents and district justices understand that the  well intentioned individuals are actually killing elk,” Dr. Cottrell  said. “For those who truly enjoy seeing elk it is best for them to stop  artificially feeding elk and other wildlife. It would be far more  beneficial if they were to implement some form of habitat improvement  producing cover to reduce weather-related stress or food in the form of  digestible native plants on their property.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TFHFeHDVHII/AAAAAAAACcA/7q5qhNbin6w/s1600/_MG_7995+rye.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TFHFeHDVHII/AAAAAAAACcA/7q5qhNbin6w/s640/_MG_7995+rye.jpg" width="426" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;PGC Recommends Landowners Plant Food And Cover To Attract Wildlife&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;b&gt;Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TFHMrABF0KI/AAAAAAAACcE/rc8QysGbBxY/s1600/_MG_8009+herd++food+plot.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TFHMrABF0KI/AAAAAAAACcE/rc8QysGbBxY/s640/_MG_8009+herd++food+plot.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Elk Feeding In PGC Food Plot (herbaceous opening) Planted In Grain&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;b&gt;Photo by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Some view the news release with a certain degree of  skepticism and point out that they have not seen or heard of large  numbers of deer lying dead in corn fields left standing into the winter  and in their opinion this should be no different than animals eating corn at a feeder.&amp;nbsp; I  recently spoke with a retired PGC Maintenance Supervisor who began  working for the agency in the 1960s at a time when they still planted  food plots in corn, which was left stand for winter wildlife food.  This  was at a time that the deer population was not large enough to decimate  the corn before it ripened, and it was common to go into winter with a  field loaded with corn ears, yet he only recalls finding one dead deer  in these fields. In light of this, it seems likely that the problem is  caused by sudden exposure to a large amount of corn such as when a  truck-load is abruptly dumped in an area, and not simply feeding on corn  per se. Dr. Cottrell refers to this when he mentions, "if they  consume &lt;b&gt;too much &lt;/b&gt;highly fermentable grain such as corn". Those deer  utilizing a corn field may have gradually become accustomed to the  change in diet as the corn ripened and thus avoided problems.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Much  supplemental feeding is done on a small scale, or occurs when animals  raid bird feeders,etc. and  is not as likely to be lethal as large scale  operations, but all are well advised to remember that intentional  artificial feeding of elk or bears is illegal under the Pennsylvania  Game And Wildlife Code.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To be continued:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally Posted At:&lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt; by Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-1159971572257108660?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/1159971572257108660/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/07/wild-about-elk-elk-and-people-issues_29.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/1159971572257108660'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/1159971572257108660'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/07/wild-about-elk-elk-and-people-issues_29.html' title='Wild About Elk: Elk And People-Issues With Elk: Part II: Artificial Feeding'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TFHE7e8RabI/AAAAAAAACb8/2JimQi5C2Qk/s72-c/Tourists+Feed+Bul.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-5711032672009857301</id><published>2010-07-23T16:24:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-24T17:43:45.597-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:'/><title type='text'>Wild About Elk: Elk And People-Issues With Elk</title><content type='html'>The  Wild About Elk workshop which I attended in mid-June was broken down  into segments built around areas of specific interest in elk  management.&amp;nbsp; These segments were presented to the class by persons  extremely knowledgeable in that specific area of interest, and in most  cases by the person responsible for implementing that portion of the elk  program for The Pennsylvania Game Commission.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We  discussed the presentation by Jon DiBerti, PGC elk biologist, in two  previous posts and hope to dwell on a few more aspects of his  presentation in the future, but today we begin dealing with: Elk And  People-Issues With Elk, which was presented by Elk County WCO (Wildlife  Conservation Officer), Doty McDowell who is assigned to perform and  direct law-enforcement functions in the core elk range on Winslow Hill  and surrounding areas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TEn10TABJ3I/AAAAAAAACbg/HRSVTK-MRd4/s1600/_MG_7809+wco+mcdowell+v.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TEn10TABJ3I/AAAAAAAACbg/HRSVTK-MRd4/s640/_MG_7809+wco+mcdowell+v.jpg" width="638" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;WCO Doty McDowell Addresses Workshop On Elk And People Issues&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;WCO McDowell stressed that many elk and  human conflicts result from both animals and humans being attracted to  the same places.&amp;nbsp; Much of the human population in the mountainous  northcentral region of the state is clustered in the lowlands and of  course along roadways.&amp;nbsp; There is a lot of undeveloped land, much of it  owned by the state government and administered by DCNR or the PGC. In  most cases, this&amp;nbsp; land is managed for wildlife or multi-purpose use,  with wildlife interests being kept strongly in mind. The problem is that  much of this is rugged mountain land, which is less than ideal wildlife  habitat in dry summers or severe winters.&amp;nbsp; This means that elk  gravitate to areas where there is more moisture and abundant plant  growth and these areas are often near human habitation.&amp;nbsp; While some are  pleased to see the elk near their homes, others are not as the animals  can do significant damage to ornamental plants, gardens, and  agricultural crops, and may present a hazard to motorists.&amp;nbsp; This means  that a substantial portion of a conservation officer's time is spent in  dealing with complaints.&amp;nbsp; The conservation officer is caught between the  proverbial "rock and a hard place"&amp;nbsp; as a portion of the public is  displeased if they remove the animal from an area, but ignoring the  complaint is not an option as those with the problem will continue to  demand action.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to WCO McDowell, many of the  complaints in the late winter and early spring months arise from the  practice of winter feeding.&amp;nbsp; In many cases this is done to attract bulls  with impressive antlers to a certain spot and to keep them in that area  until the antlers are shed, so that the person doing the feeding can  collect the antlers. It is legal to possess shed elk and deer antlers in  Pennsylvania, but they may not be sold. There are few complaints until  the antlers are shed, but they increase dramatically thereafter,  especially when the animals graze on ornamental shrubs and flowers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It  is currently illegal to feed bear and elk. in Pennsylvania., but bans  on the artificial feeding of wildlife is a controversial subject.&amp;nbsp;  Attempts to enforce the elk feeding ban have met with limited success as  it seems that in most if not all cases,&amp;nbsp; those charged with violating  the ban have been acquitted in magistrate court by district magistrates  not sympathetic to this law in particular, or the PGC in general.&amp;nbsp; A  notable exception is a camp owner that placed hay and possibly a small  amount of corn to attract elk to his property during the early years of  the feeding ban.&amp;nbsp; He was confronted by a DWCO (Deputy Wildlife  Conservation Officer) about the situation, readily admitted that he had  placed the food for elk and paid the fine without contesting the  charge.&amp;nbsp; His position was that he had done nothing morally wrong, but  that he did place the feed for elk and would pay the penalty. It seems  the most common defense is to claim that the feed is for some other  species and I have seen signs that state some variation of the  following: "Food For Deer Only!, Elk May Not Feed Here!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TEn2fcrVK5I/AAAAAAAACbk/0VxkbHxbZCY/s1600/_MG_3756+bulls+at+feeder.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TEn2fcrVK5I/AAAAAAAACbk/0VxkbHxbZCY/s640/_MG_3756+bulls+at+feeder.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bull Elk Spar At Feeder&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since enforcing the ban by arrest and  warnings has been less than successful, the agency has attempted to gain  voluntary compliance by public education about the problems associated  with artificial feeding.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An excellent example of trying to  gain voluntary compliance occurred in the early years of the ban before  the current educational initiative became the order of the day. This  incident involved a retired PGC employee who is also a long  time camp owner.&amp;nbsp; One of his favorite pastimes was going to camp during  antler shedding time. He and his family and friends sat in  lawn chairs, watching the elk feed in the camp lawn.&amp;nbsp; A good time was  had  by all as they socialized and waited, in the hopes that a bull would  lose his antlers while they waited. This was a deeply ingrained  tradition and an event to look  forward to each year, yet  suddenly it was illegal.&amp;nbsp; In this instance the camp owner was approached  by a high ranking PGC official and was told that the agency was aware  that he was feeding elk and that a "word to the wise should be  sufficient".&amp;nbsp; This was certainly the "decent" thing to do, but some felt  it was either unfair or sent an inconsistent message in light of other  persons being charged for the same offense.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet it turns out that elk-human conflicts and elk habituation to  humans is no longer the&amp;nbsp; primary objection to elk feeding. Instead the  PGC now contends there is a scientifically proven link between  artificial feeding and elk mortality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TEn26obwxaI/AAAAAAAACbo/XGmETkhatOQ/s1600/CRW_7989-shelled+corn+feeder.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TEn26obwxaI/AAAAAAAACbo/XGmETkhatOQ/s640/CRW_7989-shelled+corn+feeder.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Shelled Corn At A Feeder-Is This A Deadly Food?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To be continued:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Originally posted by Willard Hill at &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife Photographer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-5711032672009857301?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/5711032672009857301/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/07/wild-about-elk-elk-and-people-issues.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/5711032672009857301'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/5711032672009857301'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/07/wild-about-elk-elk-and-people-issues.html' title='Wild About Elk: Elk And People-Issues With Elk'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TEn10TABJ3I/AAAAAAAACbg/HRSVTK-MRd4/s72-c/_MG_7809+wco+mcdowell+v.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-237966780337409836</id><published>2010-06-28T13:59:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2010-06-29T10:24:46.936-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Managment'/><title type='text'>Pennsylvania Elk Management: "Wild About Elk"  Part 2</title><content type='html'>John Di Berti, PGC Elk Biologist made several  more points at the "Wild About Elk " workshop.&amp;nbsp; I will cover some of them below.&amp;nbsp; They are not verbatim quotes, but rather a synopsis  of what was presented, with some of my input such as in comparing the  relative reproduction capabilities of elk and deer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TCjY2WwOANI/AAAAAAAACao/1FOh3HooHBo/s1600/_MG_7752+diberti+powerpoint.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="362" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TCjY2WwOANI/AAAAAAAACao/1FOh3HooHBo/s640/_MG_7752+diberti+powerpoint.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;PGC  Elk Biologist Jon Di Berti Gives PowerPoint Presentation-&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Photo  by W.Hill&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cow elk usually do not give birth until they are  three years of age and they usually only have one calf, in contrast to  whitetail deer that may give birth at one year of age, usually give  birth at two years, and frequently have twins and sometimes triplets.&amp;nbsp;  In practical terms this means that elk do not have nearly the  reproductive potential that deer do, and therefore it is much easier to  control their numbers so that they do not damage their habitat.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dealing  with elk human conflicts is an important concern in elk management.  This segment was covered by Wildlife Conservation Officer Doty McDowell  and will be covered in depth in a future post.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Maintaining a healthy herd with a good age structure is  extremely important.&amp;nbsp; It seems that we are basically doing well with the  elk here in Pennsylvania, with the exception that there are not enough  bulls making it past the 51/2 year point.&amp;nbsp; According to Mr. Diberti, a  bull will reach his maximum potential between the age of 6-9 years, but  the ability to grow large racks may continue past the ninth year.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TCjg1_d35aI/AAAAAAAACas/tgm6hG4Rxys/s1600/_MG_7700+bull+browsing+winslow+hill+rd.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TCjg1_d35aI/AAAAAAAACas/tgm6hG4Rxys/s640/_MG_7700+bull+browsing+winslow+hill+rd.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Young  Bull Browsing: Bulls Must Be At Least 6-9 Years Old To Reach Full  Potential-&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Photo by W.Hill&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TCjleIY6zdI/AAAAAAAACaw/TBiGsBwJK1c/s1600/_MG_7703+mature+bull-cows.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="425" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TCjleIY6zdI/AAAAAAAACaw/TBiGsBwJK1c/s640/_MG_7703+mature+bull-cows.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mature  Bull Taken on Same Day-Note Extreme Difference In Antler Size-&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Photo by W.Hill&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The number of tags issued does not seem to greatly  influence the number of applications received. Over 50,000 applications  were received for the first hunt in 2001, but numbers then declined to a  low of 17,245 in 2007. They then increased slightly in 2008 and 2009  and have basically stabilized at just below 20,000 applicants. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The hunt has not significantly lowered elk mortality from other causes  such as killing for crop damage, roadkill, or natural causes, but rather  is additional mortality above and beyond these factors. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Habitat management practices directed toward elk is beneficial to a  wide variety of other species as well.&amp;nbsp; We will cover this in further  detail in a future post with photos from a field tour with Land  Management Officer John Dzemyan.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Original content posted at&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-237966780337409836?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/237966780337409836/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/06/pennsylvania-elk-management-wild-about.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/237966780337409836'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/237966780337409836'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/06/pennsylvania-elk-management-wild-about.html' title='Pennsylvania Elk Management: &quot;Wild About Elk&quot;  Part 2'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TCjY2WwOANI/AAAAAAAACao/1FOh3HooHBo/s72-c/_MG_7752+diberti+powerpoint.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-671013250547805610</id><published>2010-06-22T14:56:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2010-06-22T14:58:42.469-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Managment'/><title type='text'>Pennsylvania Elk: Management:  A Need For More Mature Bulls</title><content type='html'>I recently attended a "Wild About Elk" workshop, which involved an  afternoon of classroom training on the first day, and a morning of field  study on Winslow Hill on day two.&amp;nbsp; This also included a tour of The Elk  Country Visitors Center, which is currently under construction and  expected to open in late September.&amp;nbsp; The workshop was sponsored by The  Pennsylvania Game Commission and co-ordinated by Theresa Alberici,  Wildlife Education Specialist, Harrisburg, PGC.&amp;nbsp; Administrative  Assistance was by Kathy DePuy, Harrisburg, PGC.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wild  About Elk is part of Project Wild, which is administered by the Council  for Environmental Education and is co-sponsored by the Western  Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies.&amp;nbsp; Project Wilds mission is to  provide teachers with information and motivation to develop, and&amp;nbsp;  present an environmental curriculum for students ranging from  kindergarten through high school.&amp;nbsp; It is also geared toward informal  environmental educators such as those who give presentations to  sportsman clubs and civic organizations, or participate in outdoor  blogging and video production. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TCDmTsLPelI/AAAAAAAACaU/G1wgCyL2v4E/s1600/_MG_7761+diberti+breakaway+collar.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TCDmTsLPelI/AAAAAAAACaU/G1wgCyL2v4E/s640/_MG_7761+diberti+breakaway+collar.jpg" width="606" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;PGC  Elk Biologist Jon Di Berti Explains Radio Collars:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;b&gt;Photo  by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PGC Elk Biologist, Jon De Berti  was the first speaker and presented an excellent power-point  presentation, which dealt with general information about the herd,  research, and monitoring of the population.&amp;nbsp; Mr Di Berti made two  points, which validated much of what I have been saying on this blog.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;We  need to manage for trophy bulls. Too many bulls are being taken at or  before 5 1/2 years of age and not enough are living to reach their full  potential. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;I asked Mr. Di Berti if there are more large bulls today than  there were before the hunt and he said there is not. The question was  asked because some defenders of the hunt as it is currently implemented  claim that&amp;nbsp; the bulls are getting bigger as a result of&amp;nbsp; the elk hunt  and other management policies.&amp;nbsp; There is no doubt land management  practices have resulted in better habitat for elk, but there seems to be  no reason to believe that the hunt has increased the number and quality  of mature bulls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TCDod2gpMuI/AAAAAAAACaY/r2ASJtrtHw4/s1600/One+Eye.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="468" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TCDod2gpMuI/AAAAAAAACaY/r2ASJtrtHw4/s640/One+Eye.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;A  Monster Bull In Pre-hunt Era- &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Video Still by W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&amp;nbsp;Few if any bulls live to reach this size today, a  prime example being the bull pictured below, which was already a large  bull in 2002, but not as impressive as the bull above.&amp;nbsp; It survived the  first season, but not the second.&amp;nbsp; It was acclimated to humans and was  commonly seen around Medix Run and Winslow Hill.&amp;nbsp; It was allegedly  killed at Medix Run that year.&amp;nbsp; If a bull reaches exceptional size now, a  tremendous effort is mounted to take him, and there is little chance  that he will survive for a significant length of time unless he remains  in the No Hunt Zone or property where elk hunting is not permitted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TCDpLrNQXfI/AAAAAAAACac/MdtGPWW-DxI/s1600/bull+in+woods+015.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="512" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TCDpLrNQXfI/AAAAAAAACac/MdtGPWW-DxI/s640/bull+in+woods+015.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Acclimated  Bull February 2002:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;b&gt;Photo-W.Hill&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Mr. Di Berti also addressed elk numbers, and his  presentation reinforced information we received last year that indicated  that there were likely less elk than what many think. In fact there are  likely less elk now than there were before the hunt began contrary to  the claims of some.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Population estimates are far from an  exact science. "There is 95% confidence that our elk population is  somewhere from about 450 animals, to just over 1,000 animals."&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Mr. Di Berti went on to explain that often when allocations were  set in the past,&amp;nbsp; many PGC Commissioners focused on the high number,  which resulted in&amp;nbsp; license allocations being higher than could be  justified, because the actual number of elk was much lower.&amp;nbsp; Since 2008  allocations have been based on the lower number known&amp;nbsp; as MNA, which  means minimum number alive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to Carol  Mulvihill, writing in the June 19, 2010 edition of Endeavor News, "the herd  is smaller than the 700-plus elk population that existed before hunting  began in 2001." Ms Mulvihill then goes on to make the point that it may  be time to let the herd grow to 800-1,200 animals.&amp;nbsp; I recall that this  was the plan when the trap and transfer program was taking place during  the late 1990s, but this figure seemed to vanish from discussion when&amp;nbsp;  trap and transfer was discontinued due to resistance from landowners.&amp;nbsp;  Still the elk have naturally spread over a larger area and it seems that  the herd could be allowed to increase to those numbers without putting  undue pressure on the habitat or the inhabitants of Pennsylvania's Elk  Country.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Original content posted at&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-671013250547805610?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/671013250547805610/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/06/pennsylvania-elk-management-need-for.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/671013250547805610'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/671013250547805610'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/06/pennsylvania-elk-management-need-for.html' title='Pennsylvania Elk: Management:  A Need For More Mature Bulls'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/TCDmTsLPelI/AAAAAAAACaU/G1wgCyL2v4E/s72-c/_MG_7761+diberti+breakaway+collar.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-1221827900967593522</id><published>2010-06-20T00:03:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2010-06-20T00:04:16.906-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Please Join Us......</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="color: black; 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margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S9g-pdXp-7I/AAAAAAAACWw/_ZsybpOq6_A/s1600/_MG_7712+6x7.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="426" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S9g-pdXp-7I/AAAAAAAACWw/_ZsybpOq6_A/s640/_MG_7712+6x7.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Will  Hunt Zones Be Realigned To Provide Sufficient Protection For Bulls Such  As This?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;In a somewhat positive move, the  Pennsylvania Game Commission reduced the elk license allocation for the  fall of 2010  from what it was last year.  The figures are as follows  with 2009s allocation shown first for comparison purposes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;2009&lt;/b&gt;-59  licenses available-20 antlered, 39 antlerless+1 Conservation Tag=60  Total&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;2010&lt;/b&gt;-50 licenses available:17 antlered and 33  antlerless +1 Special Conservation tag=51 total.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This  is 6 less cow and 3 less bull tags for a total of 9 less licenses than  last year, which is a step in the right direction.  The really crucial  part will be how the hunt zones, or kill zones as many prefer to call  them will be fine tuned&amp;nbsp; this year. That information will be released at  a later date.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For those who are unaware of what the  Special Conservation Tag is, here is the explanation from PGC News  Release #038-10:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Special Conservation Tag was  created by Act 101 of 2008. Under the law, the Game Commission is  authorized to provide one antlered elk license to a wildlife  conservation organization to auction. Of the auction proceeds, up to 20  percent may be retained by the wildlife conservation organization and  the rest is turned over to the Game Commission for elk management. The  new law sunsets on July 1, 2013, and requires the General Assembly to  re-authorize the authority to allow for the auction of one antlered elk  license per license year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In another move, approval was  given for an extended elk hunting season to be held after the regular  season, as PGC Executive Director Carl Roe also explains in News Release  #038-10.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“From time to time, elk wander outside the  boundaries of the area in which the Game Commission is attempting to  contain them in,” said Carl G. Roe, Game Commission executive director.  “Because of elk-human conflicts, we do not want to have elk establish  populations in areas outside a certain area.&lt;br /&gt;For this reason, we  want to allow elk license holders who have not taken an elk during the  regular season to be able to participate in an extended season to target  elk that have gone outside the elk management area.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Time  will tell if this proves to be a controversial decision or not.  Look  for more information on The Special Conservation Tag, and the expanded  hunting area in future posts on &lt;a href="http://countrycaptures.blogspot.com/"&gt;Country Captures&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/"&gt;Pennsylvania Wildlife  Photographer&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/"&gt;Support  PA Elk.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-3973622573238313977?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/3973622573238313977/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/04/pennsylvania-game-commission-announces.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/3973622573238313977'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/3973622573238313977'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/04/pennsylvania-game-commission-announces.html' title='Pennsylvania Game Commission Announces 2010 Elk License Allocations'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S9g-pdXp-7I/AAAAAAAACWw/_ZsybpOq6_A/s72-c/_MG_7712+6x7.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-8727314565725856266</id><published>2010-04-16T11:24:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2010-04-16T11:26:14.495-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:'/><title type='text'>Scientific Wildlife Management?</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S8h-UtYpmmI/AAAAAAAACV4/MViPaADpd7w/s1600/CRW_5378+6x6.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S8h-UtYpmmI/AAAAAAAACV4/MViPaADpd7w/s640/CRW_5378+6x6.jpg" width="424" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;6x6  Bull Elk-Hunt Zone 2&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Many who support the Pennsylvania elk hunt, as it is currently  implemented, base their defense of the season on scientific grounds. It  seems they focus on three major points. 1. Science demands that there be  a hunt. 2. The number and quality of large bulls has increased since  the hunt began. 3. We have a healthier herd today as a result of the  hunt.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Few would contest that  science and scientific management is a fine thing, but is our wildlife  managed by scientific principles? While it is certainly true that The  Pennsylvania Game Commission does much scientific research on wildlife  species, it is by no means a given that management decisions are always  based on scientific fact. A decision may be based entirely on science,  partly on science, or science may be completely disregarded.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S8h_neAXgAI/AAAAAAAACWA/XnW0ktISKrQ/s1600/_MG_0842+measuring+antlers.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S8h_neAXgAI/AAAAAAAACWA/XnW0ktISKrQ/s640/_MG_0842+measuring+antlers.jpg" width="426" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Gathering Scientific Data At Check Station&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;A classic case in point is the elk license allocations during  the early years of the hunt.  The first year saw a somewhat reasonable  allocation of 40 licenses (if we accept that we had to have an elk hunt  at that point in time), but in 2002, the allocation was increased to 70.   According to a source speaking on condition of anonymity, a high  ranking Pennsylvania Game Commission official, made a statement that he  wanted 70 licenses this year(2002), 100 next(2003), and 150 (2004) on  the following. This caused some heated discussion and it was reported  said, that "no one up north asked for that many licenses", which  translates into that those closely involved with&amp;nbsp; the elk program&amp;nbsp; from  The Northcentral Region did not recommend these allocations.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Certainly this individual's input should  merit serious consideration since he had to have an excellent  understanding of elk management issues based on scientific fact, or did he? What qualifications did this individual have for his position?&amp;nbsp;  He had previously served on The Sportsman's Advisory Council, came from a business  background, and was reportedly a personal friend of Governor Tom Ridge, but   he had no formal training in wildlife management.  Like most outdoor  enthusiasts he was, well lets say, enthusiastic about the outdoors, and this spilled  over in an unbridled enthusiasm for Pennsylvania elk hunting.. He reportedly did not  follow through with a request for 150 licenses in 2004, but rather asked  for 100 once again. This provoked a strong public reaction, after which  the allocation was reduced to  40. Does this sound like management  based on sound scientific principles?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Ironically many who endorse "scientific  management" when it suits their purposes, question the "science" when it  does not. An excellent case in point is Pennsylvania's deer management  program. I would wager that some of the most vocal defenders of the elk  program, are less than pleased with the deer program, which is of course  supposedly based on sound scientific principles, yet they do not question the science behind elk management or if decisions are made based on scientific principles.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;While some may claim that science dictates  the proper use of the elk resource, in fact, the herd can be  scientifically managed for tourism, for hunting purposes, or a  combination of both,&amp;nbsp; but science does not necessarily determine the  proper use of a resource. In fact it is only one of many factors that  influence the management of any wildlife species. According to PGC elk  biologist Jon Diberti, "The PGC must consider the biological,  sociological, economic, and environmental issues associated with the elk  when developing a management plan",(DiBerti-Elk Management Plant For  Elk In Pennsylvania 2006-20016). The plan also states that the herd has  both a biological and a social carrying capacity,and that neither has  yet been reached (Management Plan: p-12. If this is the case, it appears  there is no scientific necessity for a hunt at this time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-8727314565725856266?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/8727314565725856266/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/04/scientific-wildlife-management.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/8727314565725856266'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/8727314565725856266'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/04/scientific-wildlife-management.html' title='Scientific Wildlife Management?'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S8h-UtYpmmI/AAAAAAAACV4/MViPaADpd7w/s72-c/CRW_5378+6x6.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-1464924586105928588</id><published>2010-03-11T20:30:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-05-09T21:03:39.178-04:00</updated><title type='text'>A Gentle Giant</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/S5mYTTa8n4I/AAAAAAAADrA/nTmSLr9ZApw/s1600-h/IMG_8278+bull+elk+kz2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="427" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/S5mYTTa8n4I/AAAAAAAADrA/nTmSLr9ZApw/s640/IMG_8278+bull+elk+kz2.jpg" vt="true" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;At first light Sunday morning Willard and I again began driving the roads around Benezette in search of elk. After checking Winslow Hill we turned onto Rt 555. After checking out a herd of cows, calves and young bulls feeding in a lawn we were heading back towards Benezette when I spotted two rack bulls feeding between a house and barn. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;Turning onto a side road we stopped to photograph the bulls. The largest bull, posted here, turned out to be a bull we were very familiar with. I have had the privilege to have photographed him over a period of four years. Currently one of my images of him from the rut of 2008 graces both the 2010 Pa Game Commission calendar and the March/April issue of Pennsylvania Magazine. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/S5mYPNUWh9I/AAAAAAAADq4/cmYPGDe146Q/s1600-h/IMG_8265+bull+elk+barn+kz2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="425" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/S5mYPNUWh9I/AAAAAAAADq4/cmYPGDe146Q/s640/IMG_8265+bull+elk+barn+kz2.jpg" vt="true" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;During all of my encounters with this animal he has been very docile and absolutely fearless of humans, neither attempting to approach or to retreat. This photograph was taken in the current Elk Hunt Zone 2. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How can I say it; it both breaks my heart and makes me boiling mad, that some would kill &amp;amp; assist to kill this gentle animal in the name of sport hunting and then have the audacity to call him a “Trophy”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;Republished from Country Captures&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-1464924586105928588?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/1464924586105928588/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/03/gentle-giant.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/1464924586105928588'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/1464924586105928588'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/03/gentle-giant.html' title='A Gentle Giant'/><author><name>Coy Hill</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17961295214970687017</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='27' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-prB57arPKHw/TveN3CgAg8I/AAAAAAAAFQg/SSy1EuWsdCc/s220/profile%2Bpic%2B12-15-11%2BIMG_3392.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/S5mYTTa8n4I/AAAAAAAADrA/nTmSLr9ZApw/s72-c/IMG_8278+bull+elk+kz2.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-3706423592132430332</id><published>2010-02-26T20:06:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2010-05-09T21:04:42.490-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Why Hunt our Elk?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/S4hwLFwkYGI/AAAAAAAADmQ/nm5RvLogLE8/s1600-h/IMG_2588+elk+bull+sparring.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5442723485504004194" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/S4hwLFwkYGI/AAAAAAAADmQ/nm5RvLogLE8/s400/IMG_2588+elk+bull+sparring.jpg" style="display: block; height: 267px; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; width: 400px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Considering that the small free-ranging Pennsylvania elk is a significant tourist attraction and that it benefits both the state and local economies and considering that according to the PGC’s 2006 Elk Management Plan neither the Biological Carrying Capacity nor the Sociological Carrying Capacity have been reached or exceeded, one must ask why then was some individuals so intent on creating and currently upon carrying on this modern-day elk hunt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If one takes the time to research this subject they will find many answers offered; population control, elimination of human-animal conflicts, gathering of biological data, etc. Of course there are many reason for hunting these animals at this time, some have merit and others perhaps not so much.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A stated goal of the 2006 Elk Management Plan is to expand the Elk Management Area from its current size of 835 square miles to an area of 3,750 square miles, allowing elk to fill areas of public land where they currently do not exist. Why then is there a hunt?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let us take a moment simply to consider the angle of money and the role it plays in the management of our states most magnificent wild animal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First we must take a quick look back into the history of our herd. After initial stocking and limited hunting the hunting was eliminated and for many decades only a small population remained. During this time the population changed very little overall. What you might ask caused this tiny herd to grow into the healthy herd we have today? From the research that I have done it can primarily be summed up with one word, HABITAT.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Elk, while requiring the shelter of the forest also require herbaceous opening containing their preferred foods to prosper. Herbaceous opening do not just naturally occur in Pennsylvania’s elk range, they must be constructed and sometimes at considerable cost. Providing this habitat has been the key to growing our elk herd, it is the key to the current health of the elk herd. Habitat is the key, not the hunting as has been disingenuously offered by some who have both a macho and financial stake in the hunt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please remember that in most part our PGC is funded by the hunters and trappers of the commonwealth. Quoting from the 2008-09 PGC Annual Report: &lt;i&gt;“As Pennsylvania’s wildlife management agency, the Game Commission is responsible for managing more than 460 species of wild birds and mammals. Primary attention, due to &lt;b&gt;funding sources&lt;/b&gt; and limitations, is directed to &lt;b&gt;select game species&lt;/b&gt; and the commonwealth’s &lt;b&gt;most imperiled&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;nongame species&lt;/b&gt;.”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my opinion one of the primary reasons behind the current elk hunt is all about the money, not that the PGC is trying to fund other species or projects with elk tag and application monies, but rather to justify the large investment of money and resources into the elk management program.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As long as hunters and trappers are the primary source of funding for our wildlife management agencies, wildlife will be managed primarily for the consumptive sports and not necessarily in the best interest of the species being managed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-3706423592132430332?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/3706423592132430332/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/02/why-hunt-our-elk.html#comment-form' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/3706423592132430332'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/3706423592132430332'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/02/why-hunt-our-elk.html' title='Why Hunt our Elk?'/><author><name>Coy Hill</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17961295214970687017</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='27' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-prB57arPKHw/TveN3CgAg8I/AAAAAAAAFQg/SSy1EuWsdCc/s220/profile%2Bpic%2B12-15-11%2BIMG_3392.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/S4hwLFwkYGI/AAAAAAAADmQ/nm5RvLogLE8/s72-c/IMG_2588+elk+bull+sparring.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-2779115329325748341</id><published>2010-01-31T21:09:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-01-31T21:15:27.820-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>Game Commission Proposes Expanded Elk Season</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S2Y3aUGO-PI/AAAAAAAACNI/RHWVSTGFDWY/s1600-h/CRW_1303+number+40+2006.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 400px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S2Y3aUGO-PI/AAAAAAAACNI/RHWVSTGFDWY/s400/CRW_1303+number+40+2006.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5433090925680064754" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Mature Bull: 2006&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On January 26, 2010 The Pennsylvania Game Commission gave preliminary approval to seasons and bag limits for the coming license year. This includes significant changes in deer, bear, turkey, and elk seasons. Seasons and bag limits will be finalized during the Commission's April 19-20th meeting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As part of these sweeping changes there is a proposal to add an extended elk season for those few who are unable to fill their tag during the regular season.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to &lt;a href="http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=512&amp;amp;objID=12775&amp;amp;PageID=648010&amp;amp;mode=2&amp;amp;contentid=http://pubcontent.state.pa.us/publishedcontent/publish/marketingsites/game_commission/content/resources/newsreleases/newsrelease/articles/release__005_10.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;PGC News Release#05-10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Jan.26, 1010:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Pennsylvania Board of Game Commissioners today gave preliminary approval to a regulatory change to allow any unfilled antlered or antlerless elk license awarded for an annual elk season to be valid for taking either an antlered or antlerless elk anywhere within this Commonwealth outside of the elk management area during any designated extended elk season following the regular elk season.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“From time to time, elk wander outside the boundaries of the area in which the Game Commission is attempting to contain them in,” said Carl G. Roe, Game Commission executive director. “Because of elk-human conflicts, we do not want to have elk establish populations in areas outside a certain area."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“For this reason, we want to allow elk license holders who have not taken an elk during the regular season to be able to participate in an extended season to target elk that have gone outside the elk management area."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Board also approved the 2010 elk season to be held on Nov. 1-6, and to an extended elk hunting period for those with unfilled elk licenses to be Nov. 8-13.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In related action, with the agency continuing to work to update and implement the elk management plan, the Board gave preliminary approval to regulatory changes to address a somewhat confusing aspect of elk management policy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Under the proposal, terms such as elk range, elk management area, elk hunt zones will be clarified in the management plan and regulations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Under the regulatory change, Elk management area” would be defined as that portion of Wildlife Management Unit 2G in McKean, Potter, Tioga, Elk, Cameron, Clinton, Lycoming, Clearfield and Centre counties, bounded on the north by Rt. 6, on the east by Rt. 287, on the south by Rt. 220 and I-80 and on the west by Rt. 219.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, “elk hunt zones” would be comprised of areas as established by the Director on an annual basis prior to the opening of elk season. The divisional line between two or more elk hunt zones shall be the center of the highway, natural watercourse, other natural boundary or marked boundary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Analysis Of The Situation:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The implementation of the expanded elk season sends a strong message that the PGC does not want the elk herd to expand into more heavily populated areas of the state, especially those in close proximity to highways with large traffic volumes. It is hard to say just what this proposed season means in the overall scheme of things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What will actually be more telling in the short run is to see how the hunt zones are realigned and what allocations are assigned. Certain PGC officials have recently made remarks about shifting the focus of elk management from hunting to tourism, yet one can go back to a 2003 news release and find where they were saying the same thing about shifting hunting pressure away from the mature bulls and that did not happen to a significant extent until the 2009 season when the combined hunt zones were eliminated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whatever the final decisions that are made for this year, they are never the FINAL decisions and wildlife management policies are in continual flux from year to year and will continue to be so. Whatever the outcome, it does not change the fact that there are agency personnel that are extremely concerned about the amount of hunting pressure that has been recently directed at the mature bulls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some in the hunting industry bask in a state of blissful euphoria as they skim the top off of the few exceptional bulls that the state produces each year, certain that this will continue indefinitely, but they would be well advised to feel a sense of unease even as they do so, for their sport is regulated by a totally unpredictable agency.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What if The PGC decides to drastically increase the license allocation and issues 100 bull tags for the 2011 season(this scenario is assuming that the elk herd remains at about 700-800 animals)? How would this impact the attempt to build a guiding industry around killing exceptionally large bull elk? Would those who support the hunt as it is currently implemented, think this was a good idea? How long would it be until they were talking about the good old days when we had large bulls to hunt?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A scenario such as this is not LIKELY to happen anytime soon, but it is not written in stone that it will not. Those who hang their hat on the belief that wildlife is always managed by scientific principles needs to get a grip on reality and take a closer look at how important management decisions are sometimes made.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Willard Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-2779115329325748341?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/2779115329325748341/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/01/game-commission-proposes-expanded-elk_31.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/2779115329325748341'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/2779115329325748341'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/01/game-commission-proposes-expanded-elk_31.html' title='Game Commission Proposes Expanded Elk Season'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S2Y3aUGO-PI/AAAAAAAACNI/RHWVSTGFDWY/s72-c/CRW_1303+number+40+2006.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-8345533499030903828</id><published>2010-01-25T12:44:00.011-05:00</published><updated>2010-01-25T13:48:30.384-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>More Mature Bulls Now Than Ever Before?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S13XL1y8PSI/AAAAAAAACMA/OrTJdiD8Poo/s1600-h/004.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 342px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S13XL1y8PSI/AAAAAAAACMA/OrTJdiD8Poo/s400/004.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5430733324097961250" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"Crazy Legs 1997": A Monster Bull*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Today's photos are video still captures from Hi-8 video tapes, which cannot compare to output from a dedicated still camera or even a modern camcorder.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;style type="text/css"&gt;  &lt;!--   @page { margin: 0.79in }   P { margin-bottom: 0.08in }  --&gt;&lt;/style&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;In a recent internet debate with SupportPAElk, Jack Manack Jr. of Elk County Outfitters made the following comment in reference to our contention that too many of the large bulls have been killed in the elk seasons.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left; font-weight: bold;"&gt;"You guys question my comments about there being more mature bulls now then ever before and the fact that there are less to see around the no hunt zone. The answer to both of these questions is the same. This is how much good the elk hunt is doing for the health of the herd. What it took people 70 years to do to the elk, the hunt is reversing in just a few".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Jack Manack Jr. 2009&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In light of this statement a brief look at the historical record is in order.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Elk vanished from the state sometime in the late 1870s. The Pennsylvania Game Commission was established in 1895 and a serious effort to re-establish decimated or extirpated wildlife populations began. According to Ralph Harrison, writing in "The History of Elk Country", elk from Yellowstone Park were released in The Commonwealth from 1913 to 1915, along with 22 animals from a preserve in Monroe County. Six more animals were released in 1924 and four in 1926 for a total of 177 animals released.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A season for bull elk was established in 1923 and 23 bulls were taken. The harvest climaxed in 1927 at 26 animals and declined to five in 1930. Only one animal was taken in 1931 and the hunt was discontinued.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The decline in numbers continued until it is estimated that there were between 24 and seventy animals in 1970.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At this time Ralph Harrison organized an effort to improve elk habitat and the herd began a steady increase.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This positive trend continued until "the first modern day Pennsylvania elk hunt in 70 years was held in 2001. The herd now numbers 700-800 animals.  An important consideration to bear in mind is that the PGC is reasonably certain that 80% of these animals do actually exist. They are  counted and monitored on a regular basis. The other 20% of the herd is estimated to exist. The key word here is ESTIMATED. Some who are extremely knowledgeable about the elk herd question the accuracy of this estimate and feel that the number is actually less, and most likely a great deal less. These are not tourists, or elk guides, but rather persons who live in the elk range and observe the animals on a daily basis. These same persons also do NOT believe that there are more mature bulls now then ever before, but rather contend that too much hunting pressure has been directed at them and that there are now less mature bulls on Winslow Hill and less in the back country than before the hunt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Before the hunt it was fairly common to see bulls such as the following one on Winslow Hill.  There is some room for error here, but this animal  was most likely taken on the fourth day of the first elk hunt season. If this is the same bull, it was the largest rack taken and the 3rd heaviest animal during the 2001 hunt.(&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;PGC News Release 102-01&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S13YtvO1SJI/AAAAAAAACMI/pN8sYWfeRHY/s1600-h/002.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 293px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S13YtvO1SJI/AAAAAAAACMI/pN8sYWfeRHY/s400/002.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5430735005963077778" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;8x9 Near Gilbert Viewing Area:1997&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S13ZAP_UC2I/AAAAAAAACMQ/5TldKJZ97mI/s1600-h/003.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 371px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S13ZAP_UC2I/AAAAAAAACMQ/5TldKJZ97mI/s400/003.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5430735323994000226" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" &gt;8x9 :Another View&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I admit to being somewhat confused!  How is it a good thing that there are less bulls of this caliber on Winslow Hill now, than there were before the hunt?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the past 70 years the elk herd rebounded from only a few animals to an estimated 700 animals before the 2001 hunt&lt;span style="color: rgb(52, 69, 113);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Geneva;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;dsfcontenttitle id="156635" uuid="3A102116-3D74-43B7-BF70-3BF24A5E2545"&gt;&lt;/dsfcontenttitle&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;,&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; (PGC News Release 102-01)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, yet Mr. Manack defends the hunt by saying, "what it took people 70 years to do to the elk, the hunt is reversing in just a few". &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It seems things were going to hell in a hand basket before the hunt came along and saved the day, yet during this time elk numbers were increasing and the herd was expanding. What problems has the hunt reversed?  We will explore this subject in more depth in the near future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S13ZAP_UC2I/AAAAAAAACMQ/5TldKJZ97mI/s1600-h/003.jpg"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-8345533499030903828?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/8345533499030903828/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/01/more-mature-bulls-now-than-ever-before.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/8345533499030903828'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/8345533499030903828'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/01/more-mature-bulls-now-than-ever-before.html' title='More Mature Bulls Now Than Ever Before?'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S13XL1y8PSI/AAAAAAAACMA/OrTJdiD8Poo/s72-c/004.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-4914419392677474991</id><published>2010-01-10T10:20:00.018-05:00</published><updated>2010-01-10T12:36:54.274-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:'/><title type='text'>Who Really Pays For Elk Management-Is A Change Needed ?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S0n9kXKN91I/AAAAAAAACJ0/zeI0A50wHYA/s1600-h/CRW_7611.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 321px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S0n9kXKN91I/AAAAAAAACJ0/zeI0A50wHYA/s400/CRW_7611.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5425146027278464850" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Bull 36-2005&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;There is a belief among some that support the Pennsylvania Elk hunt as it is currently implemented, that their opponents are misinformed, uneducated persons, who have little understanding of the situation. If if they could only grasp the "scientific" facts of modern wildlife management they would become enthusiastic supporters of the program instead of shouting "half-truths" from the rooftops.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, I must confess that  I did agree with this point of view to a certain extent in my early years, with the exception that elk did not enter into the equation when I entered the outdoor arena in the mid-1960s as there was only a small remnant of a herd and  little or no discussion of Pennsylvania elk in any of the outdoor magazines. How then did one who was educated, enlightened and totally with the program come to develop a diametrically opposite point of view after spending the majority of their life working in the front ranks of land management and law-enforcement with the Pennsylvania Game Commission? It would take an entire book to deal with this issue in a satisfactory manner, but I hope to address it to a certain extent in a series of posts in the near future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With this thought in mind I wish to toss out a few thoughts on who pays for our wildlife conservation programs and on elk management in particular.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Carol Mulvihill  has an interesting article on this very subject in the January 9th, 2010 edition of &lt;a href="http://www.endeavornews.com/"&gt;Endeavor News&lt;/a&gt; .  Ms. Mulvihill raises  several interesting points:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="border-collapse: collapse;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:100%;"  &gt;"Elk management in Pennsylvania is the responsibility of the Game Commission and the funds to do it come from hunting license sales, Pittman-Robertson funds (federal excise taxes on firearms and ammunition) and funds from timber and oil/gas resources from state game lands used for hunting.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="border-collapse: collapse;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:100%;"  &gt;"The truth is that elk management is subsidized entirely by hunters. Animal rights advocates don’t give a penny toward elk management. Neither do tourists.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="border-collapse: collapse;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;p&gt;"The situation is not fair – and it’s not sustainable. Wildlife management in this state must soon be paid for by all citizens. We have hunters to thank for the subsidy of the Game Commission’s budget to manage an elk herd in Pennsylvania that tourists from far and near come to photograph and enjoy. But they can’t keep paying the entire bill by themselves."&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Ms. Mulvihill is accurate in her assessments to a great extent, but there are a few other aspects to the issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Perhaps most important is that until the last few years the PGC DID NOT WANT to receive funding from other sources. It was only after the legislature decided to play political hardball with the agency and refused to grant a license increase, that alternative funding received serious attention. The reason was quite simple and went much like this: "If they help pay, then we must give them a seat at the table and a voice in the decision making process," and this the agency DID NOT want to do.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Another aspect to this is that many tourists and photographers do hunt some species, do buy a hunting license each year, and do help foot the bill for the elk management program. Most of the persons I personally know who photograph Pennsylvania elk are licensed hunters so the issue is not as simple as it seems on the surface.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;That being said, the situation must change, but to receive public funding there needs be substantial change. First the agency needs to become The Pennsylvania Wildlife Commission, but the change in name must be followed by substantial changes in how the agency operates.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The PGC is responsible for maintaining a written elk management plan, which sets seasons and bag limits , etc., but much of the public land in the elk range is State Forest Land, which was not purchased with, nor is it managed with hunting license dollars, yet most of this land is open to public hunting.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S0nvtEegz9I/AAAAAAAACJk/bTq0zGL_TtU/s1600-h/CRW_7417+dcnr+food+plot.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 267px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S0nvtEegz9I/AAAAAAAACJk/bTq0zGL_TtU/s400/CRW_7417+dcnr+food+plot.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5425130783719346130" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="border-collapse: collapse;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Food Plot On State Forestry Land-Elk County Pennsylvania&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="border-collapse: collapse;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;p&gt;This land is managed by DCNR, an agency which does plant food plots, has law-enforcement officers, etc. The PGCs role on State Forest Land is limited to enforcing laws, gathering biological data, and setting seasons and bag limits. They do not do habitat improvement work there-unless it is a co-operative type project. DCNR is a general fund agency, which is largely funded by taxpayer dollars, timber sales, etc. It could well be that the benefit the hunting industry receives from the use of these lands far outweighs what the tourist industry and animal rights advocates receive by using State Game Lands.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A close look at the 2001 elk harvest map reveals quite a bit as to land ownership patterns in the elk range.  State Game Lands are shaded in gray, State Forest Lands in light green,State Parks in dark green and private property in white.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S0ny1z-VRjI/AAAAAAAACJs/3aAKRk8yWFM/s1600-h/01elkharvest_5.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 255px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S0ny1z-VRjI/AAAAAAAACJs/3aAKRk8yWFM/s400/01elkharvest_5.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5425134232443110962" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="border-collapse: collapse;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;2001 Elk Harvest Map:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Courtesy The Pennsylvania Game Commission Media Resource Center&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Another aspect of the situation that is often overlooked is that State Game Lands are not always purchased with hunter's license dollars.  In 2000, the PGC, DCNR, The Western Pennsylvania Conservancy and RMEF partnered to purchase the Gilbert Farm, which is now The Gilbert Viewing Area. The property was then conveyed to the PGC to manage and maintain.  This begs the question as to what portion of this acquisition was actually paid for with hunter's license dollars.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="border-collapse: collapse;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:100%;"  &gt;  &lt;p&gt;The bottom line: While the PGC does pay for "elk management" with hunters license dollars and does own and maintain several important tracts of land, the vast majority of public land in the elk range is State Forest Land, which is paid for and maintained by everyone's dollars!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-4914419392677474991?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/4914419392677474991/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/01/who-really-pays-for-elk-management-is.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/4914419392677474991'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/4914419392677474991'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/01/who-really-pays-for-elk-management-is.html' title='Who Really Pays For Elk Management-Is A Change Needed ?'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/S0n9kXKN91I/AAAAAAAACJ0/zeI0A50wHYA/s72-c/CRW_7611.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-6464763628418710590</id><published>2010-01-02T10:52:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T10:54:53.932-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>Trusting Animals: Photographing Wildlife</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/Sz9rwvl7SFI/AAAAAAAADX8/sicmMyZiJl8/s1600-h/IMG_2470+trusting+animals+elk.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 400px; DISPLAY: block; HEIGHT: 267px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5422170961530800210" border="0" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/Sz9rwvl7SFI/AAAAAAAADX8/sicmMyZiJl8/s400/IMG_2470+trusting+animals+elk.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Photographing wildlife is no easy task, the beauty of the creatures, their environment and photographing their interaction is what keeps drawing me back time and time again to photograph God’s untamed creatures in their free roaming habitat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Snapping a picture of a wild creature sometimes is easy and other times not so easy but making a Photograph is an entirely different situation.  A studio photographer typically is in control of his subject, the lighting and the background environment but in wildlife photography all of that control is out the window.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For lighting we are strictly at the mercy of the weather and the animal’s whims.  Even if we do find our subject during the very best light of the day, if the animal or our observation post is not properly positioned to take advantage of the beautiful light, our efforts are in vain.  Sure a picture can be snapped to show what we saw but a real photograph, one such as you might find on a magazine cover will be impossible if we cannot change position to take full advantage of the situation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Backgrounds are another issue.  With wildlife the animal chooses where it will be and when it will be there.  Sometimes the encounter is perfect with a great natural background and other times; oh well just another snapshot to be deleted later or kept as a reference to show what was encountered, unless the photographer can move to a more advantageous shooting position.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The value of trusting wildlife for photographic purposes cannot be overstated.  With wildlife that does not become overly alarmed by human presence the success of the photographer as well as of the casual viewer is greatly enhanced.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is no secret among wildlife photographers that many if not most wildlife photographs found in publication are photographs of trusting animals.  These animals normally live in areas protected from hunting pressure.  Areas such as National Parks, National Wildlife Refuges, and other protected areas as well as pen raised animals are utilized extensively by wildlife photographers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whether the subject is a songbird conditioned to human presence by feeding or a mature whitetail in a National Park there is no shame in photographing trusting animals, this is what we need to be successful.  The challenge is not in the hunt but rather in using all of the tools, our knowledge, and our creativity to produce a beautiful memorable photograph that celebrates the beauty of nature.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wildlife images featured on my blog, Country Captures, for the most part are of wildlife that has a certain amount of trust or tolerance for humans.  With some subjects tolerance can be built with only a few quiet non-threatening visits while others require a considerable effort be expended acclimating the animals to human presence, sometimes years!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the great values of the Pennsylvania elk herd is the almost total lack of fear of humans.  The elk found around the traditional viewing areas are accustomed to human presence.  Seventy years of protection and the influx of tens of thousands of visitors each year has conditioned these animals to such a degree that they simply go about their daily business regardless of human presence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With the current tiny no kill zone the quality of available animals has been eroded over the years of the hunt and perhaps their trust will be the next to go.  Some do not see the value in preserving this unique experience that thousands enjoy and consider the changes brought on by the hunt to be positive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my opinion reducing these majestic trusting free ranging animals to a trophy hanging on the wall, a set of number in a record book, and a hunting story does nothing positive for the image of hunting or of hunters and nothing positive for this unique Pennsylvania Treasure.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Republished from &lt;a href="http://countrycaptures.blogspot.com/"&gt;Country Captures&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-6464763628418710590?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/6464763628418710590/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/01/trusting-animals-photographing-wildlife.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6464763628418710590'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/6464763628418710590'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2010/01/trusting-animals-photographing-wildlife.html' title='Trusting Animals: Photographing Wildlife'/><author><name>Coy Hill</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17961295214970687017</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='27' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-prB57arPKHw/TveN3CgAg8I/AAAAAAAAFQg/SSy1EuWsdCc/s220/profile%2Bpic%2B12-15-11%2BIMG_3392.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/Sz9rwvl7SFI/AAAAAAAADX8/sicmMyZiJl8/s72-c/IMG_2470+trusting+animals+elk.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-5526364898720245483</id><published>2009-12-29T18:59:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-12-29T19:06:29.784-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:'/><title type='text'>Keystone Elk Country Alliance-A New Partnership</title><content type='html'>We recently linked to a press release date Dec. 21, 2009 by The Rocky Mountain Elk "Foundation regarding a new PA chapter in Elk Conservation.  This was concerning the founding of a Bloomsburg/Danville chapter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is no secret that there has been much discord among Pennsylvania RMEF members, with some regarding the RMEF's withdrawal from the Winslow Hill Visitor's Center as a positive thing, while other members have been very displeased.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We recently received information pertaining to the founding of another new organization,  Keystone Elk Country Alliance, which is not affiliated with The RMEF.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SPE extends a special thanks to Jeff Thomas for providing this timely information!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keystone Elk Country Alliance&lt;br /&gt;John Geissler, Chairman&lt;br /&gt;3539 Reichert Road&lt;br /&gt;Erie, PA 16509&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John Geissler&lt;br /&gt;Elk Creek Chapter Chair&lt;br /&gt;3539 Reichert Rd&lt;br /&gt;Erie, PA 16509&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;December 12, 2009&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dear Chapter Chair and Volunteer Committee Members&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As Chapter Chair and Committee Volunteers, you are probably aware that RMEF has abandoned Pennsylvania by terminating a 30 year signed agreement to partner with the Pennsylvania Department of Natural Resources to own and operate our state of the art Elk Country Visitor Center in the heart of PA’s Elk Country. This also applies to the ownership of the pristine Elk Mountain Homestead. As an 18 year member, Life Member, Habitat Partner, Committee Chair, State Leadership Team, and member of the Visitor Center Building Committee I was devastated by this news. The RMEF to this day has been at best disingenuous with the volunteers by keeping this “poor administrative decision” as low keyed as possible. Many of the great volunteers across the state are totally unaware this has taken place. This action by RMEF has resulted in the resignation of Mr. Rawley Cogan, RMEF Lands Manager; Sue Meehl, State Chair; the PA Leadership Team; and many volunteers and committee members. Because of these developments a new entity has been formed to finish what RMEF carelessly gave away.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please allow me to introduce the “new kid on the block”:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keystone Elk Country Alliance!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John “The Sheriff” Geissler, Chairman Ron Alcorn, Vice Chairman&lt;br /&gt;Randy Kimmel, Treasurer Mike Odasso, Secretary&lt;br /&gt;Rawley Cogan, Project Manager&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keystone Elk Country Alliance is our new Pennsylvania entity. We will be holding great fundraising banquets, special events and raffles and now ALL of the fundraising proceeds will stay right here in PA!! The focus is on completing the Elk Country Visitor Center as was originally promised to our volunteers and donors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;RMEF has transferred the property to PA DCNR. The donors who contributed to the Homestead property insisted it stay with the Visitor Center project. Because RMEF terminated the agreement, the Keystone Elk Country Alliance has now partnered with DCNR to complete the project and become involved in the operation of the Visitor Center and the Elk Mountain Homestead in the near future. Our Elk Country Visitor Center is well underway and we will see it finished for a 2010 Summer Grand Opening.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are starting out the 2010 Banquet Season with several committees stepping up to hold banquets under the Keystone Elk Country Alliance and would ask you to consider this option as well, as we move forward. The goal of this alliance is to join strength all across the State to continue our great conservation education heritage, work with our youth in habitat enhancement, and continue to be great stewards of “your” Elk Mountain Homestead and to provide a multitude of people of all ages the “premier, state of the art” Visitor Center in the United States.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We have a team ready to meet with any committee for further explanation and details of the Keystone Elk Country Alliance. We would sincerely welcome you joining your fellow PA Volunteers and lending your support to fulfill a given promise and commitment. This is exciting! Join the 2010 Banquet Season of the Keystone Elk Country Alliance line-up and be listed as “Founding Chapters” – what a legacy to have noted in the Pennsylvania history archives!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yours in Conservation and Education,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John “The Sheriff” Geissler, Chairman Contact Info: jlgeissler@peoplepc.com&lt;br /&gt;Members of the Board Hm# 814.866.6421&lt;br /&gt;Keystone Elk Country Alliance Cell# 814.602.4901&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-5526364898720245483?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/5526364898720245483/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2009/12/keystone-elk-country-alliance-new.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/5526364898720245483'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/5526364898720245483'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2009/12/keystone-elk-country-alliance-new.html' title='Keystone Elk Country Alliance-A New Partnership'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-3475574180591342570</id><published>2009-12-28T22:11:00.007-05:00</published><updated>2009-12-29T10:10:37.424-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:'/><title type='text'>SPE and Elk County Outfitters Engage In Debate</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/Szl01OKTEOI/AAAAAAAACH8/6JtWD1rBoo8/s1600-h/_MG_2155+cow.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5420492084200280290" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 400px; CURSOR: pointer; HEIGHT: 267px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/Szl01OKTEOI/AAAAAAAACH8/6JtWD1rBoo8/s400/_MG_2155+cow.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Recently several members of SupportPaElk engaged Jack Manack, Jr. of Elk County Outfitters in an extended discussion of the issues surrounding our elk herd, and elk management.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Manack raised some interesting points, and today we will deal with one of them.&lt;br /&gt;On Dec. 20, 2009 Jack Manack, said,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Maybe the most important thing here to remember is this hunt is a legal hunt and if people really have a problem with it the people to talk to are the Pa Game Comm. Just remember to have a better way to manage the elk herd ready to present to them. One that does the same that the current one does now..... strengthen and help the herd to be better and healthier than it is today."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My response:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have always been aware that this is a legal hunt and that The PGC is the agency that is responsible for managing the resource.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Expressing one's ideas by word and print is a time-honored American tradition. While it is true that private citizens should write their legislatures, state agencies, etc. about matters of public concern, opinion columnists continually write articles for publication in newspapers and magazines to spark awareness and discussion of issues of importance. They do not write letters to, or confront politicians on a daily basis. With the internet gaining in importance, editorializing on it has become commonplace. It is in the best traditions of free speech and advocacy of worthy issues that SupportPaElk has embarked on a discussion of elk management in this type of forum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I did set forth a alternative management plan, in the documentary film, The Truth About Pennsylvania's Elk Herd". This plan advanced concepts for correcting the current over-harvest of mature bulls. In light of our exchange with Mr. Manack and other information that has come to our attention, it seems that perhaps we were underestimating the gravity of the situation and there may be a need to call for wider, more encompassing reforms.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reliable information has it that the PGC is also concerned about too many large bulls being taken and that the management plan is being updated. Now more than ever, it is important for those who are concerned about the future of our largest species of wildlife to become involved with the issues and raise their voice in support of their concerns.&lt;br /&gt;Willard C. Hill&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-3475574180591342570?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/3475574180591342570/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2009/12/spe-and-elk-county-outfitters-engage-in.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/3475574180591342570'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/3475574180591342570'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2009/12/spe-and-elk-county-outfitters-engage-in.html' title='SPE and Elk County Outfitters Engage In Debate'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUvr-4o_5w8/Szl01OKTEOI/AAAAAAAACH8/6JtWD1rBoo8/s72-c/_MG_2155+cow.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-2490795183770130674</id><published>2009-12-22T15:00:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2009-12-22T15:03:07.033-05:00</updated><title type='text'>PA makes top 10 list of places to find "monster elk"</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; "&gt;Click &lt;a href="http://www.rmef.org/NewsandMedia/NewsReleases/2009/PARecords.htm"&gt;HERE&lt;/a&gt; to read the press release dated December 21, 2009 by the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation regarding new PA chapter in Elk Conservation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; "&gt;This is big news and is sure to spark some debate here on Support PA Elk. Please let us know your thoughts on this development.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-2490795183770130674?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/2490795183770130674/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2009/12/pa-makes-top-10-list-of-places-to-find.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/2490795183770130674'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/2490795183770130674'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2009/12/pa-makes-top-10-list-of-places-to-find.html' title='PA makes top 10 list of places to find &quot;monster elk&quot;'/><author><name>Heather</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-5254793658115686379</id><published>2009-12-19T18:55:00.010-05:00</published><updated>2009-12-19T19:51:31.890-05:00</updated><title type='text'>More Questions than Answers</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/Sy1oHOLYWOI/AAAAAAAADV0/Oqx5TNNFHz4/s1600-h/pIMG_8136+elk+%26+rider.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 400px; DISPLAY: block; HEIGHT: 267px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5417100400070777058" border="0" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/Sy1oHOLYWOI/AAAAAAAADV0/Oqx5TNNFHz4/s400/pIMG_8136+elk+%26+rider.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; The answer as to how best manage Pennsylvania’s small herd of free ranging elk depends in part to what one considers the best use of the resource. The perspective of the ecotourist will be different than that of the hunter as will the perspective of the farmer, landowner, motorist, or local area resident.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First allow me to digress for a moment and ask the question, who owns the elk? Is it the landowners, the guides &amp;amp; outfitters, the PGC, or the tourist? Actually it is none of the above and all of the above with the exception of the PGC. Pennsylvania wildlife is common property belonging to &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;all&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; of the citizens of the commonwealth and managed by the PGC for &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;all&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; citizens. As citizens of the commonwealth each and every one of us has an equal interest in wildlife matters and no one individual or group should be excluded from having input on these matters. In our democratic society it is healthy to question government as to the decisions made and it should be no different when questioning matters pertaining to wildlife. The purpose of this blog is not to fight with guides, hunters, outfitters or the PGC but rather to exercise our democratic rights as citizens of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania on this very important wildlife issue. The fact that hunters pay the bills of the PGC is acknowledged but the mission of the PGC is to properly manage wildlife population for both &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;consumptive and non-consumptive users alike&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Support Pa Elk blog was founded by a group of individuals concerned that the current elk management is not providing adequate protection for the animals that frequent the viewing areas in and around the current no kill zone. Allow me to be clear, our group is not a group of anti-hunting advocates. Of our group two are currently hunters and two former hunters. Two of our members are retired Deputy Wildlife Conservation Officers with the PGC, one a retired career PGC land management employee and one a firearms manufacturer. All members are wildlife enthusiast and very much concerned with the management of our Pennsylvania Elk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Recently Jack Manack Jr. of Elk County Outfitters made a blog post and opened a dialog with SPE members although he appears unwilling to continue this discussion as of now.&lt;br /&gt;Jack stated in a comment “the majority of bulls taken yearly are sub-par.” He goes on to state that “the reason for this is a lack of knowledge of what is out there and the inability of hunters to hold off for truly mature bulls.” Jack further states “This year’s hunt for example there were at most 5 bulls 6 years old and up. That leaves 14 bulls that were not near their mature status.” His comment goes on to say “Believe me Marci take a ride, get away from the crowds of Winslow Hill and see what is really running around up there.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This comment of Mr. Manack’s only causes more questions to arise in my mind. As to the “why” hunters are killing “sub-par” animals Mr. Manack’s reasons are his personal opinions based upon his experience, not scientific fact. Could it really be that guides are not doing an adequate job scouting before season and in advising their clients as to these mature bulls existence and then directing them to them if indeed the numbers of mature bulls stated by Mr. Manack really do exist? As for advising Marci to get away from the Winslow Hill crowds to view mature bulls; it’s no secret that before the modern day hunt mature bulls were commonly viewed on Winslow Hill. I also must wonder why if indeed the mature bulls do exist in the other areas why on the opening morning of the season one of Mr. Manack’s guides was there guiding a client to the dominate 9x8 which I feel was included in Mr. Manack’s definition of “sub-par”. I realize that this particular client held a tag for zone 2 but there is a lot more to zone 2 than just Winslow Hill. There can be little doubt that more elk exist in the state today but if mature bulls are not common on Winslow Hill where the cow numbers appear to be as high as ever then perhaps there is good reason to conclude that too many mature bulls have been killed in this region; exactly one of the points that SPE has been making!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-5254793658115686379?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/5254793658115686379/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2009/12/more-questions-than-answers.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/5254793658115686379'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/5254793658115686379'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2009/12/more-questions-than-answers.html' title='More Questions than Answers'/><author><name>Coy Hill</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17961295214970687017</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='27' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-prB57arPKHw/TveN3CgAg8I/AAAAAAAAFQg/SSy1EuWsdCc/s220/profile%2Bpic%2B12-15-11%2BIMG_3392.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/Sy1oHOLYWOI/AAAAAAAADV0/Oqx5TNNFHz4/s72-c/pIMG_8136+elk+%26+rider.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-7256626902768855240</id><published>2009-12-16T00:12:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2009-12-16T00:16:43.212-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>Another Guide Responds</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;EJM has responded by posting a comment to My Profile On You Tube:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;After one brothers offensive rants and threats, the other brother now has a message to deliver.  These gentlemen are the ultimate goodwill ambassadors for the hunting community.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Here is the comment in its entirety:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;      &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"Mr Hill, You have brother number 2 here. We were just laughing at your blogs. I only have one comment for you sir, If the elk hunt is a joke to you and we are a joke as guides, and we shoot tame barnyard elk. Then how can you possibley sell a video that features tame barnyard elk. Are you a wildlife photographer or a livestock videographer. Anyone could do that. So, to you sir, if we are a joke, then you and your time scouting and your movie is a joke to us. By the way I have personaly witnessed a camp full of hunters fall asleep to your joke. Maybe you would like to see the perfect 200 yard first shot on that 9x8 bull and thats no joke. By the way sir how close did you get to that elk? When you filmed him, may be he was stunned by your camera flash. I think he was acclimated two people trying to feed him, cameramen, and barnyard videographers."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Happy Hunting EJM    &lt;/p&gt;       &lt;div style="border: 0px none ; margin: 15px 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-weight: bold;"&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;         &lt;p style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;We thank EJM for his response.  It is most enlightening.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-7256626902768855240?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/7256626902768855240/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2009/12/another-guide-responds.html#comment-form' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/7256626902768855240'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/7256626902768855240'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2009/12/another-guide-responds.html' title='Another Guide Responds'/><author><name>Willard</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17059945499957721902</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anR4jMNB1GQ/TYaM9rwRneI/AAAAAAAACpk/fGRo3dLyDjE/s220/horizontal%2B%2Bprofile.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-8217207961975302692</id><published>2009-12-14T20:35:00.007-05:00</published><updated>2009-12-14T20:58:57.477-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Pa Elk; The PGC &amp; the Money</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/SyboVKchBWI/AAAAAAAADUs/3SEN0G42zb8/s1600-h/IMG_7996+8a.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 400px; DISPLAY: block; HEIGHT: 267px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5415271052238456162" border="0" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/SyboVKchBWI/AAAAAAAADUs/3SEN0G42zb8/s400/IMG_7996+8a.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;Bull 8A &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Pennsylvania elk herd has benefited greatly from a considerable amount of habitat improvement work in the Elk Range. Much of it has been financed by donations from organization such as the RMEF, NWTF, as well as private donations. The Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources has been very active in this work as well as the Pennsylvania Game Commission.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As the agency responsible for managing all of Pennsylvania’s wildlife, the PGC has invested considerably in the biological research of our elk herd. Numerous animals are fitted with numbered collars, radio tracking collars, and ear tags. Biologist, Jon DeBerti, is assigned full time to this most important work as was R. Cogan before him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The work of the PGC has taken place at a time when the agency is cash strapped by the lack of a hunting license increase in ten years. Hundreds of acres of abandoned strip mines have been reclaimed and converted into first grade elk range with areas of cover interspersed with herbaceous opening. The habitat improvement work allows the range to now support more wildlife than it did previously while helping to keep the elk away from agricultural areas. As anyone reading this well knows the cost of labor, equipment, fuel and salaries has raised considerable during this time but the PGC’s major source of funding has not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The revenue from the elk license application fees and the license fees are the only monies the PGC derives directly from the elk herd. Tourism, while contributing more to the region’s economy than the elk hunt, contributes nothing to the PGC, an inequity that should be addressed.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6996988630001075146-8217207961975302692?l=supportpaelk.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/feeds/8217207961975302692/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2009/12/pennsylvania-elk-money-management.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/8217207961975302692'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6996988630001075146/posts/default/8217207961975302692'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://supportpaelk.blogspot.com/2009/12/pennsylvania-elk-money-management.html' title='Pa Elk; The PGC &amp; the Money'/><author><name>Coy Hill</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17961295214970687017</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='27' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-prB57arPKHw/TveN3CgAg8I/AAAAAAAAFQg/SSy1EuWsdCc/s220/profile%2Bpic%2B12-15-11%2BIMG_3392.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zq7AV2EJ2qQ/SyboVKchBWI/AAAAAAAADUs/3SEN0G42zb8/s72-c/IMG_7996+8a.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6996988630001075146.post-531884928646640331</id><published>2009-12-13T11:44:00.010-05:00</published><updated>2009-12-13T12:13:15.596-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pennsylvania Elk  Management:Tourism and Hunting'/><title type='text'>An Elk Guide Responds To Elk Hunt Critics</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"Whatever bro! You klnow who I am. Who are you? I'd love to debate you further. You know why we take zone two hunters. Because we can take the verbal abuse from people like you &amp;amp; because we have nothing to lose. Don't mess with somone who has nothing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:Tahoma;font-size:130%;"  &gt;﻿ &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;to lose. Get it! I never did anything to you, don't slam me. If I can find elk,bear,deer,&amp;amp; wild Turkey I can also find yo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;u. "&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;Verbatim quote by someone posting as Jpg207 on You-Tube. According to the profile This person is Jarrad McCarthy of Elk County Outfitters. This was in response to a comment by me concerning the shooting of the 9x8 bull on the first day of season&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;For those who have not seen it, the video may be viewed  by clicking &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugSSNsQrehM"&gt;Here.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugSSNsQrehM"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;This sparked a string of commentary which finally got to the point of where jpg207 posted the above response. I responded by asking him exactly who he was, whether he was actually Jarrad or Eric McCarthy and did his views represent the views of Elk County Outfitters. I informed him that I am Willard Hill of PA Wildlife Photographer and I am interested in discussing issues in a rational manner.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Coincident with this he had posted a video titled "Support PA Elk Rebuttal", which shows several scenes of dead elk hanging from a meat pole and at the elk check station, elk being gutted, elk with the skin partially removed, etc. Titles are superimposed which say, "Support Them With Chains",Support Them With Rope", "Support Them With Large Poles" it has a shot of a family posing with a bull and the caption,"Supported by Families". It ends with a portrayal of a newspaper with a bull elk photo in the top central portion of the paper, but where the title of the paper would ordinarily be, it has"Support This Bitches", which then cuts to another shot of the same paper with the elk photo blacked out and the title, "Support That Bitch"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After I posted the second comment, he suddenly removed all comments from view and made the video we just discussed private so that the general public could not see it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;I will paste the comment string here. It is somewhat difficult to follow as one needs to start at the bottom and read to the top to have the correct chronology in which the comments were posted and even then it is not certain what particular individual Jpg 207 is responding to at a given point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My comment is the one by pawildlifephoto and his response to me is directly under my comment as it shows up in my You Tube Profile as a response to my post. It is also the quote that appears at the beginning of today's post. My last comment is not present as he removed the comments from view before I was able to save it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;***************************************************&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/ipg207"&gt;ipg207&lt;/a&gt;minutes ago) Show Hide   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="font-weight: bold;" id="6Y4sWkzA2fgMmf0QAJyhAm5sZsyYZ_LyOQf9F_1PeX4" dir="LTR"&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a name="comment_spam_bug_6Y4sWkzA2fgMmf0QAJyhAm5sZsyYZ_LyOQf9F_1PeX4"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Reply    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div id="reply_comment_form_id_6Y4sWkzA2fgMmf0QAJyhAm5sZsyYZ_LyOQf9F_1PeX4" dir="LTR"&gt;     &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div id="comment_body_6Y4sWkzA2fgMmf0QAJyhAm5sZsyYZ_LyOQf9F_1PeX4" dir="LTR"&gt;   &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I almost forgot.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Tahoma;font-size:130%;"  &gt;﻿   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Check out my new vid that supports the PA Elk Herd.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div id="div_comment_form_id_6Y4sWkzA2fgMmf0QAJyhAm5sZsyYZ_LyOQf9F_1PeX4" dir="LTR"&gt;    &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;****************************************************&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style="font-weight: bold;" id="6Y4sWkzA2fh-u6FMWVf-GNXbH9axpNUChaE-HwiKsmI" dir="LTR"&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a name="show_link_6Y4sWkzA2fh-u6FMWVf-GNXbH9axpNUChaE-HwiKsmI"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a name="hide_link_6Y4sWkzA2fh-u6FMWVf-GNXbH9axpNUChaE-HwiKsmI"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/pawildlifephoto"&gt;pawildlifephoto&lt;/a&gt;  (21 minutes ago) Show Hide&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;This was truly an elk "shoot"   not a hunt. This&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Tahoma;font-size:130%;"  &gt;﻿ &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;animal could be approached to within spear range. He spent the last days of his life lying in a nearby lawn and it seems likely from eye witness reports that those involved in the shoot stood on the boundary of the property and observed this animal in the lawn throughout the weekend before the "hunt".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This was a"legal' activity if all rules and regulations were followed, but it stretches the imagination to classify it as a fair chase hunt. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div id="comment_vote_6Y4sWkzA2fh-u6FMWVf-GNXbH9axpNUChaE-HwiKsmI" dir="LTR"&gt;     &lt;/div&gt;    &lt;div id="reply_comment_form_id_6Y4sWkzA2fh-u6FMWVf-GNXbH9axpNUChaE-HwiKsmI" dir="LTR"&gt;     &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div id="comment_body_6Y4sWkzA2fh-u6FMWVf-GNXbH9axpNUChaE-HwiKsmI" dir="LTR"&gt;      &lt;div id="div_comment_form_id_6Y4sWkzA2fh-u6FMWVf-GNXbH9axpNUChaE-HwiKsmI" dir="LTR"&gt;    &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style="font-weight: bold;" id="6Y4sWkzA2fgwi7IgQturjNhwM5M0ervkdClpD5I6erU" dir="LTR"&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a name="show_link_6Y4sWkzA2fgwi7IgQturjNhwM5M0ervkdClpD5I6erU"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a name="hide_link_6Y4sWkzA2fgwi7IgQturjNhwM5M0ervkdClpD5I6erU"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/ipg207"&gt;ipg207&lt;/a&gt; (10 minutes  ago) Show Hide   &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a name="comment_spam_bug_6Y4sWkzA2fgwi7IgQturjNhwM5M0ervkdClpD5I6erU"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Reply    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div id="reply_comment_form_id_6Y4sWkzA2fgwi7IgQturjNhwM5M0ervkdClpD5I6erU" dir="LTR"&gt;     &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div id="comment_body_6Y4sWkzA2fgwi7IgQturjNhwM5M0ervkdClpD5I6erU" dir="LTR"&gt;   &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Whatever bro! You klnow who I am. Who are you? I'd love to debate you further. You know why we take zone two hunters. Because we can take the verbal abuse from people like you &amp;amp; because we have nothing to lose. Don't mess with somone who has nothing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Tahoma;font-size:130%;"  &gt;﻿ &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;to lose. Get it! I never did anything to you, don't slam me. If I can find elk,bear,deer,&amp;amp; wild Turkey I can also find you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;********************************************************&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div id="div_comment_form_id_6Y4sWkzA2fgwi7IgQturjNhwM5M0ervkdClpD5I6erU" dir="LTR"&gt;    &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style="font-weight: bold;" id="6Y4sWkzA2fibU6KyNy-zjrkWzKLherogQBsiO0gj5lI" dir="LTR"&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a name="show_link_6Y4sWkzA2fibU6KyNy-zjrkWzKLherogQBsiO0gj5lI"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a name="hide_link_6Y4sWkzA2fibU6KyNy-zjrkWzKLherogQBsiO0gj5lI"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Jeb141"&gt;Jeb141&lt;/a&gt; (1 hour ago)  Show Hide   &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div id="comment_vote_6Y4sWkzA2fibU6KyNy-zjrkWzKLherogQBsiO0gj5lI" dir="LTR"&gt;   &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Its more a look of "thats it?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Watch all the other "hunters" come out of the   woods near the end.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They are probably only a few hundred   feet, if that, away from a road or truck.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is not a   hunt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This animal was docile, it had been filmed and approached by a thousand people. It spent the last few days of it's life in someones yard.&lt;br /&gt;These "guides" are a   joke.&lt;br /&gt;These elk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Tahoma;font-size:130%;"  &gt;﻿ &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;should be   protected from the trophy hunters not exploited like they are   here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PA elk Hunt- Garbage!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="reply_comment_form_id_6Y4sWkzA2fibU6KyNy-zjrkWzKLherogQBsiO0gj5lI" dir="LTR"&gt;     &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style="font-weight: bold;" id="6Y4sWkzA2fiqkJi3F9cdJtBCCb03Z20l76D5gjdFcGU" dir="LTR"&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a name="show_link_6Y4sWkzA2fiqkJi3F9cdJtBCCb03Z20l76D5gjdFcGU"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a name="hide_link_6Y4sWkzA2fiqkJi3F9cdJtBCCb03Z20l76D5gjdFcGU"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/ipg207"&gt;ipg207&lt;/a&gt; (30 minutes  ago) Show Hide&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;******************************************************&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a name="comment_spam_bug_6Y4sWkzA2fiqkJi3F9cdJtBCCb03Z20l76D5gjdFcGU"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Reply    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div id="reply_comment_form_id_6Y4sWkzA2fiqkJi3F9cdJtBCCb03Z20l76D5gjdFcGU" dir="LTR"&gt;     &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div id="comment_body_6Y4sWkzA2fiqkJi3F9cdJtBCCb03Z20l76D5gjdFcGU" dir="LTR"&gt;   &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Hey There.&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for the comment. I'd love to debate you on the subject, but someone with no rocks in their pants hides behind their words. You know&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Tahoma;font-size:130%;"  &gt;﻿   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;who I am. Who are you. I have an idea. Send me your address, I'll mail you the balls off next years bull. Then you can face me to comment further.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;*************************************************&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div id="div_comment_form_id_6Y4sWkzA2fiqkJi3F9cdJtBCCb03Z20l76D5gjdFcGU" dir="LTR"&gt;    &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style="font-weight: bold;" id="6Y4sWkzA2fi8UUz4qkStSNEDqV8bp9dARpW7zWD7SLU" dir="LTR"&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a name="show_link_6Y4sWkzA2fi8UUz4qkStSNEDqV8bp9dARpW7zWD7SLU"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a name="hide_link_6Y4sWkzA2fi8UUz4qkStSNEDqV8bp9dARpW7zWD7SLU"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/supportpaelk"&gt;supportpaelk&lt;/a&gt;  (4 hours ago) Show Hide&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I have heard that when a hunter shoots a magnificent "trophy bull," the exhilaration is overwhelming... one of the most emotional experiences of their life. This video does not depict that whatsoever... it actually looks as though the "hunters" are relieved it's finally over. They must have&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Tahoma;font-size:130%;"  &gt;﻿ &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;been tired from all of the scouting and hand-feeding of the elk in the weeks leading up to the hunt. I wonder if Boone &amp;amp; Crockett would classify this as a fair chase. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div id="comment_vote_6Y4sWkzA2fi8UUz4qkStSNEDqV8bp9dARpW7zWD7SLU" dir="LTR"&gt;     &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div id="comment_body_6Y4sWkzA2fi8UUz4qkStSNEDqV8bp9dARpW7zWD7SLU" dir="LTR"&gt;      &lt;div id="div_comment_form_id_6Y4sWkzA2fi8UUz4qkStSNEDqV8bp9dARpW7zWD7SLU" dir="LTR"&gt;    &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;************************************************&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-weight: bold;" id="6Y4sWkzA2fhalNih2AYl1desVt5IcZKb-OhaYe0BPdE" dir="LTR"&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/ipg207"&gt;ipg207&lt;/a&gt; (17 minutes  ago) Show Hide   &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a name="comment_spam_bug_6Y4sWkzA2fhalNih2AYl1desVt5IcZKb-OhaYe0BPdE"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Reply    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div id="reply_comment_form_id_6Y4sWkzA2fhalNih2AYl1desVt5IcZKb-OhaYe0BPdE" dir="LTR"&gt;     &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div id="comment_body_6Y4sWkzA2fhalNih2AYl1desVt5IcZKb-OhaYe0BPdE" dir="LTR"&gt;   &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Thanks for the comment. You know who   I am. Who are you? I'd love to debate this more, but someone with   no balls hides&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Tahoma;font-size:130%;"  &gt;﻿ &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;behind their words. I can send you a pair from next years bull if your old lady won't return yours. Then we'll talk turkey. You know why we guide in zone two. Because we can take the abuse from cowards like yourself &amp;amp; because we have nothing to lose. Never mess with people who has nothing to lose. Remember that. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div id="div_comment_form_id_6Y4sWkzA2fhalNih2AYl1desVt5IcZKb-OhaYe0BPdE" dir="LTR"&gt;    &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;***********************************************&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in; font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a name="show_link_6Y4sWkzA2fgvP5wCYwxwlUZBhC0qQUgaS131C8FLfnc"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a name="hide_link_6Y4sWkzA2fgvP5wCYwxwlUZBhC0qQUgaS131C8FLfnc"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Jeb141"&gt;Jeb141&lt;/a&gt; (12 hours ago) Show Hide  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;div style="font-weight: bold;" id="comment_vote_6Y4sWkzA2fgvP5wCYwxwlUZBhC0qQUgaS131C8FLfnc" dir="LTR"&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; The elk that is taken in this vid
